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The result was keep. Deville (Talk) 04:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hard as Hell (album)

NN album, no charting. →ROUX ₪ 21:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No sign of notability. Brian Reading (talk) 00:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The nomination basis seems flawed. First of all, under WP:NSONGS charting is an issue for songs, not albums. For albums, "in general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia." Second, according to allmusic, this album did chart.[1]. So I am not sure what the basis is for claiming the album is non-notable. Rlendog (talk) 17:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The album has been reviewed, it has charted, and the article is referenced. Passes WP:MUSIC#Albums. I think the Nom's basis in the claim the album is non-notable lays in the fact no searching was done before the article was tagged for AfD. Oh, and nice one for AfDing it 45 min after it was just tagged for notability too. Esradekan Gibb ^"Klat" 02:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Or, and here's a really alien thought to you apparently, you could assume that I nominated this in good faith having seen no evidence of charting or any substantial media mentions after a quick search. You could also--y'know, maybe--not say things like 'oh and nice one for AfDing it' etc, as that is fantastically rude and suggests some sort of motive other than what was stated. I found the page during NPP. So.. yeah. Why don't you redact your statements above and try again without being incredibly rude? Just a suggestion, and might make the cesspit that is AfD just a wee bit less unpleasant for those of us who don't hang out here all day. → ROUX ₪ 02:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was    '''keep'''. [[User:Deville|Deville]] ([[User talk:Deville|Talk]]) 04:25, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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 *'''Delete.''' No sign of notability. [[User:Brianreading|Brian Reading]] ([[User talk:Brianreading|talk]]) 00:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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 *'''Keep''' - The nomination basis seems flawed.  First of all, under [[WP:NSONGS]] charting is an issue for songs, not albums.  For albums, "in general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia."  Second, according to [[allmusic]], this album did chart.[http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:dcfwxzl0ldhe~T3].  So I am not sure what the basis is for claiming the album is non-notable. [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 17:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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-*'''Keep'''. The album has been reviewed, it has charted, and the article is referenced. Passes [[WP:MUSIC#Albums]]. I think the Nom's basis in the claim the album is non-notable lays in the fact no searching was done [[WP:BEFORE|before the article was tagged for AfD]]. Oh, and nice one for AfDing it 45 min after it was just tagged for notability too. <small>[[User:Esradekan|<span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"><font style="color:gold;background:navy;">'''&nbsp;Esradekan&nbsp;Gibb&nbsp;'''</font></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Esradekan|<font size="-4" color="Navy">"Klat"</font>]]</sup></small> 02:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
+*'''Keep'''. The album has been reviewed, it has charted, and the article is referenced. Passes [[WP:MUSIC#Albums]]. I think the Nom's basis in the claim the album is non-notable lays in the fact no searching was done [[WP:BEFORE|before the article was tagged for AfD]]. Oh, and nice one for AfDing it 45 min after it was just tagged for notability too. <small>[[User:Esradekan|<span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"><span style="color:gold;background:navy;">'''&nbsp;Esradekan&nbsp;Gibb&nbsp;'''</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Esradekan|<span style="font-size:x-small; color:Navy;">"Klat"</span>]]</sup></small> 02:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
+**Or, and here's a really alien thought to you apparently, you could assume that I nominated this in good faith having seen no evidence of charting or any substantial media mentions after a quick search. You could also--y'know, maybe--not say things like 'oh and nice one for AfDing it' etc, as that is fantastically rude and suggests some sort of motive other than what was stated. I found the page during NPP. So.. yeah. Why don't you redact your statements above and try again without being incredibly rude? Just a suggestion, and might make the cesspit that is AfD just a wee bit less unpleasant for those of us who don't hang out here all day. →&nbsp;[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#4B0082;font-size:80%;">'''ROUX'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:#4B0082;">'''₪'''</span>]]<small>&nbsp;02:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)</small>
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