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The result was keep, after expansion and sourcing of article. Merge is possible, but it looks good enough to stand on its own. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 04:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

John Fedko

Fails notability test for inclusion in Wikipedia Burghboy80 13:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ unless sourced and referenced i.a.w. WP:BIO by end of this AfD Alf^Photoman 15:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep,m references show at least borderline notability Alf^Photoman 15:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
~~Extremely Weak Keep~~ - Slightly notable. FireSpike 20:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable local figure. Vassyana 10:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral. Technically passes notability threshold, as noted below. Good job on sourcing Quarl. I cannot endorse the retention of purely local figures, but I will not oppose inclusion. Vassyana 13:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non notable Gillyweed 11:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, "second-most recognizable personality in Pittsburgh", most notable sportscaster in Pittsburgh. I have expanded the article 20-fold [1] using the following references.
- "Fedko Fone Zone". Pittsburgh Cable News Channel. Retrieved 2007-03-08.
- "John Fedko - WPXI-TV". WPXI. Retrieved 2007-03-08.
- Finder, Chuck (1995-10-12). "When it comes to friday night football in Western Pennsylvania, this is a market that has become ... Fedko's own". Retrieved 2007-03-08.
- Bianco, Robert (1994-10-25). "On WTAE, A lead story that goes to the dogs". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved 2007-03-08.
- Brogley, Bill (1996-12-28). "Sports mailbag: Fedko fans as childish as Channel 11 reaction". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved 2007-03-08.
- Burgess, Kelly (1997-11-09). "Fedko boosts teens' talents, says keep trying". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved 2007-03-08.
—Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-08 12:47Z

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 12:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Notable enough for inclusion. Jvbishop 15:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep, the rewrite is great!. FireSpike 01:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
keep though I don't see what is so great about the rewrite. There is a good lead paragraph on his notable accomplishments, but the majority of the article is about his education, politics, and religion.DGG 01:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This may not be the most well written article, however I think it is worth keeping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.52.105.38 (talk • contribs)
Merge - Having an entire page with not a lot of information seems pointless, even if Fedko is a recognizable sports personality in Pgh. Why can't this information be merged onto the WPXI page somehow? It seems important enough to report on but not important enough to warrant its own article.--Write On 1983 17:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep, to answer your question WO83, he is shown on more then WPXI. Also you can't leave out the discussion that this is a perennial NCAA Tournament town (8 in the last 6 seasons), AFC Championship/SuperBowl city, and has one of the hottest and youngest hockey teams around all seen through the prism of the local "Howard Cosells". Just look at the range and depth of Steeler nation, all pulling up Fedko online from Asia, Europe and throughout North and Central America. Hholt01 23:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the expansion by Quarl. Notability is demonstrated by the multiple references. -- Black Falcon 01:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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+The result was '''keep''', after expansion and sourcing of article. Merge is possible, but it looks good enough to stand on its own. &mdash; '''[[User:Rebelguys2|Rebelguys2]]''' [[User talk:Rebelguys2|<sup style="color:#CC5500;">talk</sup>]] 04:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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-* '''Delete''' unless sourced and referenced i.a.w. [[WP:BIO]] by end of this AfD [[user:Alf_photoman | <font face="Amazone BT">Alf</font><font face="Aldine401 BT" size="2"><sup>Photoman</sup></font>]] 15:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
+* '''<s>Delete</s>''' unless sourced and referenced i.a.w. [[WP:BIO]] by end of this AfD [[user:Alf_photoman | <span style="font-family:Amazone BT;">Alf</span><span style="font-family:Aldine401 BT; font-size:small;"><sup>Photoman</sup></span>]] 15:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
+* '''Weak keep''',m references show at least borderline notability [[user:Alf_photoman | <span style="font-family:Amazone BT;">Alf</span><span style="font-family:Aldine401 BT; font-size:small;"><sup>Photoman</sup></span>]] 15:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
-* '''Extremely Weak Keep''' - Slightly notable. [[User:FireSpike|'''FireSpike''']] 20:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
-*'''Delete'''. Non-notable local figure. [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 10:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
+* '''<s>Extremely Weak Keep</s>''' - Slightly notable. [[User:FireSpike|'''FireSpike''']] 20:44, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
+*<del>'''Delete'''. Non-notable local figure.</del> [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 10:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
+**'''Neutral'''. Technically passes notability threshold, as noted below. Good job on sourcing [[User:Quarl|Quarl]]. I cannot endorse the retention of purely local figures, but I will not oppose inclusion. [[User:Vassyana|Vassyana]] 13:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' Non notable [[User:Gillyweed|Gillyweed]] 11:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''', "second-most recognizable personality in Pittsburgh", most notable sportscaster in Pittsburgh.  I have expanded the article 20-fold [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=John_Fedko&diff=113560214&oldid=112319995] using the following references.
 ** {{cite news |title=Fedko Fone Zone |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Cable News Channel]] |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://www.wpxi.com/pcnc/1909311/detail.html }}
 ** {{cite news |title=John Fedko - WPXI-TV |publisher=WPXI |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://www.wpxi.com/station/1900853/detail.html }}
-** {{cite news| title=When it comes to friday night football in Western Pennsylvania, this is a market that has become ... Fedko's own |first=Chuck |last=Finder |date=[[1995-10-12]] |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADF841DB790FD3&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
+** {{cite news| title=When it comes to friday night football in Western Pennsylvania, this is a market that has become ... Fedko's own |first=Chuck |last=Finder |date=1995-10-12 |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADF841DB790FD3&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
-** {{cite news |title=On WTAE, A lead story that goes to the dogs |first=Robert |last=Bianco |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=[[1994-10-25]] |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADF589B4EAF7A6&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
+** {{cite news |title=On WTAE, A lead story that goes to the dogs |first=Robert |last=Bianco |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=1994-10-25 |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADF589B4EAF7A6&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
-** {{cite news |title=Sports mailbag: Fedko fans as childish as Channel 11 reaction |first=Bill |last=Brogley |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=[[1996-12-28]] |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADFAB4A2743D80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
+** {{cite news |title=Sports mailbag: Fedko fans as childish as Channel 11 reaction |first=Bill |last=Brogley |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=1996-12-28 |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADFAB4A2743D80&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
-** {{cite news |title=Fedko boosts teens' talents, says keep trying |first=Kelly |last=Burgess |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=[[1997-11-09]] |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADFC6607180F4B&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
+** {{cite news |title=Fedko boosts teens' talents, says keep trying |first=Kelly |last=Burgess |publisher=[[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette]] |date=1997-11-09 |accessdate=2007-03-08 |url=http://docs.newsbank.com/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info:sid/iw.newsbank.com:AWNB:PPGB&rft_val_format=info:ofi/fmt:kev:mtx:ctx&rft_dat=0EADFC6607180F4B&svc_dat=InfoWeb:aggregated4&req_dat=0D0CB57AB53DF815 }}
 *<span class="user-sig user-Quarl"><i>—[[User:Quarl|Quarl]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quarl|talk]])</sup> <small>2007-03-08 12:47Z</small></i></span>
-:'''&nbsp;<font color="#CC6600">Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached</font>'''<br><small>&nbsp;Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, {{{1|[[User:Quarl|Quarl]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quarl|talk]])</sup> 12:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- from Template:Relist -->
+:'''&nbsp;<span style="color:#CC6600;">Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached</span>'''<br><small>&nbsp;Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, {{{1|[[User:Quarl|Quarl]] <sup>([[User Talk:Quarl|talk]])</sup> 12:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- from Template:Relist -->
+*'''Keep''', Notable enough for inclusion.  [[User:Jvbishop|Jvbishop]] 15:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
+*'''Strong Keep''', the rewrite is great!. [[User:FireSpike|'''FireSpike''']] 01:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
+*'''keep''' though I don't see what is so great about the rewrite. There is a good lead paragraph on his notable accomplishments, but the majority of the article is about his education, politics, and religion.'''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' 01:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
+*Keep.  This may not be the most well written article, however I think it is worth keeping. <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:216.52.105.38|216.52.105.38]] ([[User talk:216.52.105.38|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/216.52.105.38|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
+* '''Merge''' - Having an entire page with not a lot of information seems pointless, even if Fedko is a recognizable sports personality in Pgh.  Why can't this information be merged onto the [[WPXI]] page somehow?  It seems important enough to report on but not important enough to warrant its own article.--[[User:Write On 1983|Write On 1983]] 17:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
+*'''Strong Keep''', to answer your question WO83, he is shown on more then WPXI.  Also you can't leave out the discussion that this is a perennial NCAA Tournament town (8 in the last 6 seasons), AFC Championship/SuperBowl city, and has one of the hottest and youngest hockey teams around all seen through the prism of the local "Howard Cosells".  Just look at the range and depth of Steeler nation, all pulling up Fedko online from Asia, Europe and throughout North and Central America. [[User:Hholt01|Hholt01]] 23:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' per the expansion by Quarl.  Notability is demonstrated by the multiple references.  -- [[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]] 01:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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