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The result was no consensus. I find the keep arguments dubious due to lack of sourcing, but there's no harm in keeping this article around until the pageant. Shii (tock) 11:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alexis Railsback

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Bit too much written in the will-be style, and no reliable sources presented. Maybe a case of too-soon. Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is not a "too-soon" post. I have added legitimate References as well as Official Web links. Pageant news is slow in Kansas City and I will continue to add References as they become available. Alexis is my niece on my wife's side and I was present at the Miss Kansas USA pageant in Wichita, Kansas on 11/30/14 when she earned and was awarded her title as Miss Kansas USA 2015. Many of the photographs posted on the linked web sites were taken personally by me. Alexis is a full-time student and has contractual obligations to the Miss Kansas USA pageant so she is very busy. My niece will forward her Biography to me to post as soon as she has the time. I look forward to being present at the Miss USA 2015 pageant to support my beautiful and talented niece, Alexis Railsback. David Stoll ^{T C} 11:08, 20 December 2014 (CST)
- None of which show independent sourcing - and the official web links are inappropriate per WP:ELOFFICIAL (and have been removed a couple of times already). As I said on your talkpage, please study the relevant policies and guidelines provided (or ask). --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 17:41, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kansas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep normally we find that state-level pageant winners of this magnitude have enough third party reliable sources to be kept. I see no reason to make an exception here. Information is verifiable.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Delete I expect she's a very nice person, but beauty pageant winners don't strike me as particularly notable. PatGallacher (talk) 19:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Paulmcdonald. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regan Hartley for some good "keep" arguments in a similar deletion discussion. Ejgreen77 (talk) 19:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Being a Miss USA contestant warrants their own article, as does being a Miss Universe contestant. Not "too soon" as all announced Miss USA 2015 contestants are given their own articles upon winning their state pageants. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a precedent or consensus for this? Anyway, consensus can change. PatGallacher (talk) 00:22, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Insufficient sources. Subject does not meet the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 Bit too much written in the will-be style, and no reliable sources presented.  Maybe a case of too-soon. [[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 16:10, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
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 *'''Keep''' normally we find that state-level pageant winners of this magnitude have enough third party reliable sources to be kept.  I see no reason to make an exception here.  Information is verifiable.--[[User:Paulmcdonald|Paul McDonald]] ([[User talk:Paulmcdonald|talk]]) 00:26, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' I expect she's a very nice person, but beauty pageant winners don't strike me as particularly notable. [[User:PatGallacher|PatGallacher]] ([[User talk:PatGallacher|talk]]) 19:53, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' per Paulmcdonald. See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Regan Hartley]] for some good "keep" arguments in a similar deletion discussion. [[User:Ejgreen77|Ejgreen77]] ([[User talk:Ejgreen77|talk]]) 19:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Keep:''' Being a Miss USA contestant warrants their own article, as does being a Miss Universe contestant. Not "too soon" as all announced Miss USA 2015 contestants are given their own articles upon winning their state pageants. [[User:Jjj1238|<span style="text-shadow:#000000 5px 4px 3px;"><span style="color: #AB2B2B;">'''{ [ ( jjj'''</span></span>]] [[User talk:Jjj1238|<span style="text-shadow:#000000 3px 4px 5px;"><span style="color: #000000;">'''1238 ) ] }'''</span></span>]] 20:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
+**Is there a precedent or consensus for this?  Anyway, consensus can change. [[User:PatGallacher|PatGallacher]] ([[User talk:PatGallacher|talk]]) 00:22, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Insufficient sources. Subject does not meet the [[WP:GNG]].--[[User:Tomwsulcer|Tomwsulcer]] ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer|talk]]) 22:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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