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The result of the debate was '''Keep''' <span style="border: 1px solid #800080;">[[User:(aeropagitica)|<font style="background: #800080" face="Ariel" color="#FFFFFF">'''&nbsp;(aeropagitica)&nbsp;'''</font>]][[User talk:(aeropagitica)|<font style="background:#FFFFFF" face="Ariel" color="#800080">'''&nbsp;(talk)&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span> 16:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
The result of the debate was '''Keep''' <span style="border: 1px solid #800080;">[[User:(aeropagitica)|<span style="background:#800080; font-family:Ariel; color:#FFFFFF;">'''&nbsp;(aeropagitica)&nbsp;'''</span>]][[User talk:(aeropagitica)|<span style="background:#FFFFFF; font-family:Ariel; color:#800080;">'''&nbsp;(talk)&nbsp;'''</span>]]</span> 16:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


*: this article was AFD'd later, and deleted, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Juggernaut Bitch (again)]] -- <small> ( [[User:Drini|<span style="cursor:crosshair;">drini's page</span>]] [[User talk:Drini|<big><span style="cursor:crosshair;">&#x260E;</span></big>]] )</small> 04:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
*: this article was AFD'd later, and deleted, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Juggernaut Bitch (again)]] -- <small> ( [[User:Drini|<span style="cursor:crosshair;">drini's page</span>]] [[User talk:Drini|<big><span style="cursor:crosshair;">&#x260E;</span></big>]] )</small> 04:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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::::I'm sure you could source that from any number of game guides that are published. Also, I'm quite sure that FF7 is notable and will be remembered years from now. [[User:Kotepho|Kotepho]] 01:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm sure you could source that from any number of game guides that are published. Also, I'm quite sure that FF7 is notable and will be remembered years from now. [[User:Kotepho|Kotepho]] 01:29, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::And Marvel comics (and their parodies) won't be? And while you tell me where you could find sources (i.e. games manuals) for Warhammer and FF7, you don't explain why this is relevant to this particular article; an article that concerns a subject matter not susceptible to being sourced. It's kind of like accusing a page on a fantasy novel for not having sources because there are no books of commentary written about that novel.[[User:RiseAbove|RiseAbove]] 01:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::And Marvel comics (and their parodies) won't be? And while you tell me where you could find sources (i.e. games manuals) for Warhammer and FF7, you don't explain why this is relevant to this particular article; an article that concerns a subject matter not susceptible to being sourced. It's kind of like accusing a page on a fantasy novel for not having sources because there are no books of commentary written about that novel.[[User:RiseAbove|RiseAbove]] 01:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''', I've heard of this video before as it was mentioned on some notable sites such as on [[VG Cats]], but I'll have to go find a link first --[[User:TBC|<font color="gray">T</font><font color="blue">B</font><font color="purple">C</font>]][[Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif|18px|]]<small><sup>[[User talk:TBC|<font color="gray">???</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/TBC|<font color="blue">???</font>]] [[Special:Emailuser/TBC|<font color="purple">???</font>]]</sup></small> 08:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment''', I've heard of this video before as it was mentioned on some notable sites such as on [[VG Cats]], but I'll have to go find a link first --[[User:TBC|<span style="color:gray;">T</span><span style="color:blue;">B</span><span style="color:purple;">C</span>]][[Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif|18px|]]<small><sup>[[User talk:TBC|<span style="color:gray;">???</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/TBC|<span style="color:blue;">???</span>]] [[Special:Emailuser/TBC|<span style="color:purple;">???</span>]]</sup></small> 08:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. ''Funny?'' Yes. ''Encyclopedic?'' I personally don't think so, at least not until there's a verifiable reference indicating that it has broader appeal than your standard run-of-the-mill internet meme. --[[User:Alan Au|Alan Au]] 08:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. ''Funny?'' Yes. ''Encyclopedic?'' I personally don't think so, at least not until there's a verifiable reference indicating that it has broader appeal than your standard run-of-the-mill internet meme. --[[User:Alan Au|Alan Au]] 08:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as [[WP:V|unverifiable]]. --[[User:Terence Ong|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terence Ong|nc]][[User talk:Terence Ong|e Ong]] 13:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as [[WP:V|unverifiable]]. --[[User:Terence Ong|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terence Ong|nc]][[User talk:Terence Ong|e Ong]] 13:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' I don't see evidence of non-fleeting notability. --[[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 13:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' I don't see evidence of non-fleeting notability. --[[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 13:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' Keep all internet memes. [[User:Swatjester|<font color="red">&rArr;</font>]] [[User_talk:Swatjester|<font face="Euclid Fraktur"><font color="black">SWAT</font><font color="goldenrod">Jester</font></font>]] [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|18px|]] [[Special:Contributions/Swatjester|<small><sup>Ready</sup></small>]] [[RSTA|<small>Aim</small>]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States_Armed_Forces|<small><sub>Fire!</sub></small>]] 15:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' Keep all internet memes. [[User:Swatjester|<span style="color:red;">&rArr;</span>]] [[User_talk:Swatjester|<span style="font-family:Euclid Fraktur;"><span style="color:black;">SWAT</span><span style="color:goldenrod;">Jester</span></span>]] [[Image:Flag_of_Iceland.svg|18px|]] [[Special:Contributions/Swatjester|<small><sup>Ready</sup></small>]] [[RSTA|<small>Aim</small>]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States_Armed_Forces|<small><sub>Fire!</sub></small>]] 15:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Can't find any evidence this meme is in any way notable. Funny, but no [[WP:V]] coverage that I can see.--[[User:Isotope23|Isotope23]] 15:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Can't find any evidence this meme is in any way notable. Funny, but no [[WP:V]] coverage that I can see.--[[User:Isotope23|Isotope23]] 15:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Historians in the 22nd century may be interested in this stuff. [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] 16:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Historians in the 22nd century may be interested in this stuff. [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] 16:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' unverifiable. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 20:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' unverifiable. [[User:Melchoir|Melchoir]] 20:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
**How is it unverifiable? Non notable perhaps, but unverifiable just doesnt make sense to me. Its a video, and theres a link to it, so doesnt that prove that it exist, and thus prove verifiability?--[[User:Pal5017|Pal5017]] 05:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
**How is it unverifiable? Non notable perhaps, but unverifiable just doesnt make sense to me. Its a video, and theres a link to it, so doesnt that prove that it exist, and thus prove verifiability?--[[User:Pal5017|Pal5017]] 05:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' With 200k Google hits this easily passes any bar of notability. [[User:Grue|<font style="background: black" face="Courier" color="#FFFFFF">'''&nbsp;Grue&nbsp;'''</font>]] 21:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' With 200k Google hits this easily passes any bar of notability. [[User:Grue|<span style="background:black; font-family:Courier; color:#FFFFFF;">'''&nbsp;Grue&nbsp;'''</span>]] 21:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' No assertion of notability. [[User:Brian G. Crawford|Brian G. Crawford]] 22:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' No assertion of notability. [[User:Brian G. Crawford|Brian G. Crawford]] 22:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' Keep, with a vengeance. What “sources” are required beyond the video itself? Nominating this page for deletion is an unfair and irrational attack. The only motivation I can see for the “debate” here is the video’s trespass upon the humorless and politically correct sensibilities of the self-consciously high-minded. Wikipedia is populated by hundreds of ludicrous pages authored by pathologically obsessed fans of some inane enclave of gaming or popular culture (I think more pages are devoted to Final Fantasy minutiae than are afforded the plays of Shakespeare). These pages seem to survive the cut through pure teflon blandness, but when the subject involves humor of a highly vulgar (though hardly immature) color, out come the censors, knives sharpened, to cleave us all to some imagined standard of lofty gentility. What it comes down to is, Wikipedia functions as a repository of knowledge. This page provides entertaining, yet NPOV, description of an extremely popular internet video that does, in fact, exist. I see no reason this fact should be expunged from the social record, especially since precedents have now established that Wiki has plenty of tolerance for internet memes (and for countless subjects far more asinine than this page.) Wiki articles are not guesses as to what future historians might find of interest; they are written for the benefit of people today. And the fact that the page enjoys Google hits and redirects suggests that people are finding use for it. [[User:Spotlessmind|Spotlessmind]]
*'''Keep.''' Keep, with a vengeance. What “sources” are required beyond the video itself? Nominating this page for deletion is an unfair and irrational attack. The only motivation I can see for the “debate” here is the video’s trespass upon the humorless and politically correct sensibilities of the self-consciously high-minded. Wikipedia is populated by hundreds of ludicrous pages authored by pathologically obsessed fans of some inane enclave of gaming or popular culture (I think more pages are devoted to Final Fantasy minutiae than are afforded the plays of Shakespeare). These pages seem to survive the cut through pure teflon blandness, but when the subject involves humor of a highly vulgar (though hardly immature) color, out come the censors, knives sharpened, to cleave us all to some imagined standard of lofty gentility. What it comes down to is, Wikipedia functions as a repository of knowledge. This page provides entertaining, yet NPOV, description of an extremely popular internet video that does, in fact, exist. I see no reason this fact should be expunged from the social record, especially since precedents have now established that Wiki has plenty of tolerance for internet memes (and for countless subjects far more asinine than this page.) Wiki articles are not guesses as to what future historians might find of interest; they are written for the benefit of people today. And the fact that the page enjoys Google hits and redirects suggests that people are finding use for it. [[User:Spotlessmind|Spotlessmind]]

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