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The result was '''Keep'''. [[User:The Halo|Th]][[User:The Halo/Esperanza|< |
The result was '''Keep'''. [[User:The Halo|Th]][[User:The Halo/Esperanza|<span style="color: green;">ε</span>]][[User:The Halo| Halo]] <sup>[[User talk:The Halo|'''Θ''']]</sup> 15:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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===[[Mohamud Siad Togane]]=== |
===[[Mohamud Siad Togane]]=== |
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nn biography, does not satisfy [[WP:BIO]] or [[WP:PROFTEST]]. Only 180 [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Mohamud+Siad+Togane&btnG=Google+Search&meta= ghits] for 'Mohamud Siad Togane'; less than a handful for the books referred to in the article. Much of this article appears to be a cut-and-paste or from the same source as [http://togane.blogspot.com/ here] (but it is not clear if this article is a copyvio). [[User:Agent 86|Agent 86]] 00:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
nn biography, does not satisfy [[WP:BIO]] or [[WP:PROFTEST]]. Only 180 [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Mohamud+Siad+Togane&btnG=Google+Search&meta= ghits] for 'Mohamud Siad Togane'; less than a handful for the books referred to in the article. Much of this article appears to be a cut-and-paste or from the same source as [http://togane.blogspot.com/ here] (but it is not clear if this article is a copyvio). [[User:Agent 86|Agent 86]] 00:40, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Delete''' That site has a licence Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 Canada which requires attribution (none is given here) and no derivate works (which cannot be guaranteed). So Firstly this article has to be treated in the normal way as copyvio. [[User:Dlyons493|< |
* '''Delete''' That site has a licence Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 Canada which requires attribution (none is given here) and no derivate works (which cannot be guaranteed). So Firstly this article has to be treated in the normal way as copyvio. [[User:Dlyons493|<span style="color:#00FF00;">Dl</span><span style="color:#44FF00;">yo</span><span style="color:#99DD11;">ns</span><span style="color:#DDDD11;">493</span>]] [[User_talk:Dlyons493|<span style="color:#DDDD11;">Ta</span><span style="color:#00FF00;">lk</span>]] 02:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep'''. The article http://www.wardheernews.com/Articles_06/feb/11_Somalia_Absence%20of%20ellite%20based%20movments_Roble%20.html mentions him as a member of a group of would-be peacemakers. --[[User:TruthbringerToronto|TruthbringerToronto]] ([[User_talk:TruthbringerToronto|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TruthbringerToronto|contribs)]] 04:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
* '''Keep'''. The article http://www.wardheernews.com/Articles_06/feb/11_Somalia_Absence%20of%20ellite%20based%20movments_Roble%20.html mentions him as a member of a group of would-be peacemakers. --[[User:TruthbringerToronto|TruthbringerToronto]] ([[User_talk:TruthbringerToronto|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TruthbringerToronto|contribs)]] 04:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' The article needs improvement, but I think Togane himself is notable. See for instance [http://mennoweekly.org/MAY/05-10-04/TOGANE05-10.html this article] about how his poetry will be appearing on city buses in Montreal (along with the work of other poets). He appears to be an active contributor to Somalia expatriot websites. Also, I'm not normally in favor of "affirmative action", but if any area of the world could use a few role models who are NOT warlords, it's Somalia.--[[User:Brianyoumans|Brianyoumans]] 04:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
* '''Keep''' The article needs improvement, but I think Togane himself is notable. See for instance [http://mennoweekly.org/MAY/05-10-04/TOGANE05-10.html this article] about how his poetry will be appearing on city buses in Montreal (along with the work of other poets). He appears to be an active contributor to Somalia expatriot websites. Also, I'm not normally in favor of "affirmative action", but if any area of the world could use a few role models who are NOT warlords, it's Somalia.--[[User:Brianyoumans|Brianyoumans]] 04:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' some of the language is very POV and needs to be changed, but the author has done a good job of showing the subject has published a number of books. Maybe not that many books, but we shouldn't be surprised that Somali poetry has a weak web presence. As part of overcoming systemic bias, I'm in favor of keeping this. It certainly is suitable for, say, an encyclopedia on Afro-Canadians, and therefore has a place on Wikipedia. [[User:Interlingua|< |
* '''Keep''' some of the language is very POV and needs to be changed, but the author has done a good job of showing the subject has published a number of books. Maybe not that many books, but we shouldn't be surprised that Somali poetry has a weak web presence. As part of overcoming systemic bias, I'm in favor of keeping this. It certainly is suitable for, say, an encyclopedia on Afro-Canadians, and therefore has a place on Wikipedia. [[User:Interlingua|<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Ariel; background: #08E8DE ">'''''Inter'''''</span><span style="color: #08E8DE; font-family: Ariel; background: #000000">'''lingua'''</span>]] <sup> [[User talk:Interlingua|talk]] [[Special:Emailuser/Interlingua|email]]</sup> 04:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak keep'''. By the book, this article doesn't quite make it. I agree with Interlingual's take on the matter above -- if there is a good case for bending the guidelines, this looks to be it. Remember, they are ''guidelines'', not laws. I think that means they were meant to be bent. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 23:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Weak keep'''. By the book, this article doesn't quite make it. I agree with Interlingual's take on the matter above -- if there is a good case for bending the guidelines, this looks to be it. Remember, they are ''guidelines'', not laws. I think that means they were meant to be bent. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 23:35, 5 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. Article needs more improvement, but nonetheless is a good source of info on a notable person. I removed those image links. The guy needs to upload the pic first to use it. [[User:ResurgamII|ResurgamII]] 01:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. Article needs more improvement, but nonetheless is a good source of info on a notable person. I removed those image links. The guy needs to upload the pic first to use it. [[User:ResurgamII|ResurgamII]] 01:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. Doesn't cross the notability threshold--he's a professor with one book out, one forthcoming. That pretty much describes 50% of the profs in North America. As an activist, I see nothing which would push him over the line into notability.-[[User:Kmaguir1|Kmaguir1]] 07:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Delete'''. Doesn't cross the notability threshold--he's a professor with one book out, one forthcoming. That pretty much describes 50% of the profs in North America. As an activist, I see nothing which would push him over the line into notability.-[[User:Kmaguir1|Kmaguir1]] 07:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' per above. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 10:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' per above. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 10:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' of course. We need a lot ''more'' on academics and artists, hardly less just because an early version of the article wasn't as well written as it might be. |
*'''Keep''' of course. We need a lot ''more'' on academics and artists, hardly less just because an early version of the article wasn't as well written as it might be. [[User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters|<span style="color:darkgreen;">LotLE</span>]]×[[User talk:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters|<span style="color:darkred; font-size:x-small;">talk</span>]] 16:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. Failed to impress me even with his own web page. -- [[User:Marwatt|Marwatt]] 13:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Delete'''. Failed to impress me even with his own web page. -- [[User:Marwatt|Marwatt]] 13:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep:''': Togane is well-known in Somali-Canadian circles and in the Montreal poetry scene. --[[User:Slp1|Slp1]] 19:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep:''': Togane is well-known in Somali-Canadian circles and in the Montreal poetry scene. --[[User:Slp1|Slp1]] 19:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep:''' notability established. [[User:Mukadderat|Mukadderat]] 18:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Keep:''' notability established. [[User:Mukadderat|Mukadderat]] 18:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
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