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Reviewer: Djmaschek (talk · contribs) 00:08, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Initial review

I plan to review this article for GA class. Djmaschek (talk) 00:08, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
Review 1
@Sturmvogel 66: Please fix or argue your case for not fixing. Djmaschek (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Design and description, paragraph 1, sentence 1: "...for ships that counted against the national tonnage limit." (I was confused by this clause, so I went to the Type 35 torpedo boat article, which described very well how the designers tried to shoehorn the T35s within the constraints of the London Treaty. Maybe something like: "...because such low-tonnage ships did not count against the national tonnage limit".) Done

Design and description, paragraph 1: Standard displacement text: 859 metric tons (845 long tons), infobox: 859 long tons. (A mismatch also exists with deep load data.) Done

Construction and career, paragraph 1: "Now assigned to the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor, they escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September." (It sounds awkward. Suggest: "T1 escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September as part of the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor.") Done

Construction and career, paragraph 2: "the four oldest of the sisters" (Please add: "including T1". Logically, T1 should be the oldest, but make that clear.) Done
b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Your comments on my prose were great improvements over my own phrasings, appreciations!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:08, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sturmvogel 66: GA class. Djmaschek (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 # It is '''reasonably well written'''.
-#: a. ''(prose, spelling, and grammar)'': {{GAList/check|? <!-- Insert y, n or ? --> }}
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 #:: <!-- 1a. The prose is clear and concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; the spelling and grammar are correct. -->
 #:: '''Review 1'''
 #:: {{ping|Sturmvogel 66}} Please fix or argue your case for not fixing. [[User:Djmaschek|Djmaschek]] ([[User talk:Djmaschek|talk]]) 22:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
-#::*Design and description, paragraph 1, sentence 1: "...for ships that counted against the national tonnage limit." (I was confused by this clause, so I went to the [[Type 35 torpedo boat]] article, which described very well how the designers tried to shoehorn the T35s within the constraints of the London Treaty. Maybe something like: "...because such low-tonnage ships did not count against the national tonnage limit".)
+#::*Design and description, paragraph 1, sentence 1: "...for ships that counted against the national tonnage limit." (I was confused by this clause, so I went to the [[Type 35 torpedo boat]] article, which described very well how the designers tried to shoehorn the T35s within the constraints of the London Treaty. Maybe something like: "...because such low-tonnage ships did not count against the national tonnage limit".) {{done}}
-#::*Design and description, paragraph 1: Standard displacement text: 859 ''metric'' tons (845 long tons), infobox: 859 ''long'' tons. (A mismatch also exists with deep load data.)
+#::*Design and description, paragraph 1: Standard displacement text: 859 ''metric'' tons (845 long tons), infobox: 859 ''long'' tons. (A mismatch also exists with deep load data.) {{done}}
-#::*Construction and career, paragraph 1: "Now assigned to the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor, they escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September." (It sounds awkward. Suggest: "T1 escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September as part of the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor.")
+#::*Construction and career, paragraph 1: "Now assigned to the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor, they escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September." (It sounds awkward. Suggest: "T1 escorted a minelaying mission in the English Channel on 6–7 September as part of the 1st Torpedo Boat Flotilla with her sister ships T2, T3, and the torpedo boat Kondor.") {{done}}
-#::*Construction and career, paragraph 2: "the four oldest of the sisters" (Please add: "including T1". Logically, T1 should be the oldest, but make that clear.)
+#::*Construction and career, paragraph 2: "the four oldest of the sisters" (Please add: "including T1". Logically, T1 should be the oldest, but make that clear.)  {{done}}
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 #:: <!-- If the article meets all 6 criteria, mark it as a pass. If it is only partially compliant or non-compliant, you may place the review on hold to allow time for issues to be fixed (generally 7 days). Often the nomination is brought up to standard during the review. If so, note this and close the review as a pass. If the nomination does not meet the criteria, close it as a fail. -->
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+Your comments on my prose were great improvements over my own phrasings, appreciations!--[[User:Sturmvogel 66|Sturmvogel 66]] ([[User talk:Sturmvogel 66|talk]]) 01:08, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
+*{{ping|Sturmvogel 66}} GA class. [[User:Djmaschek|Djmaschek]] ([[User talk:Djmaschek|talk]]) 02:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)