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The result was Keep. references have been added to demonstrate notability WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure)‎ Bruxton (talk) 01:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Mayotte

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Although this article passes NTENNIS, it completely fails GNG (which cannot be superseded by SNG) as it has no citations at all. A search on the web shows that there are no secondary sources about him, so there are no spaces for improvement. Timothytyy (talk) 10:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Tennis, and United States of America. Timothytyy (talk) 10:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:40, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - it looks like it has citations to me. He was a notable player in his day. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FYI the sources were added later. Timothytyy (talk) 10:11, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that these sources were added shows your claim "there are no secondary sources about him" to be incorrect.--Wolbo (talk) 10:51, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Wolbo I couldn't access all the newly-added citations. All of them were local newspapers. So yeah, I agree, my claim "there are no secondary sources about him" is incorrect after all, just because I couldn't find them online. Timothytyy (talk) 11:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then perhaps what you should be doing is adding a template that we need more sources rather than frivolous deletion requests. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable player who won three doubles titles on the highest tour level and is sufficiently sourced.--Wolbo (talk) 10:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Berkshire Eagle's cited article is a very good source (clip [1]), The State's less so as it consists of little secondary coverage and mostly relies on what Mayotte's saying/quotes instead. Hartford Courant's one is more of a Chris Mayotte vs Jeff Aarts match recap. I'm struggling to find something more in Newspapers beyond passing mentions, routine announcements or match recaps and listings. However, it's hard to put down someone who played over 170 matches total in ATP Tour, was in top 90 in singles and won 3 doubles titles, that's an overwhelming pass of WP:NTENNIS. If there was not a single significant coverage I'd lean on delete, but collectively I think it edges out a keep from me. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 23:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Keep''' - it looks like it has citations to me. He was a notable player in his day. [[User:Fyunck(click)|Fyunck(click)]] ([[User talk:Fyunck(click)|talk]]) 07:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 *:FYI the sources were added later. [[User:Timothytyy|Timothytyy]] ([[User talk:Timothytyy|talk]]) 10:11, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
+*::The fact that these sources were added shows your claim "there are no secondary sources about him" to be incorrect.--[[User:Wolbo|Wolbo]] ([[User talk:Wolbo|talk]]) 10:51, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
+*:::@[[User:Wolbo|Wolbo]] I couldn't access all the newly-added citations. All of them were local newspapers. So yeah, I agree, my claim "there are no secondary sources about him" is incorrect after all, just because I couldn't find them online. [[User:Timothytyy|Timothytyy]] ([[User talk:Timothytyy|talk]]) 11:46, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
+*::::Then perhaps what you should be doing is adding a template that we need more sources rather than frivolous deletion requests. [[User:Fyunck(click)|Fyunck(click)]] ([[User talk:Fyunck(click)|talk]]) 19:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' - notable player who won three doubles titles on the highest tour level and is sufficiently sourced.--[[User:Wolbo|Wolbo]] ([[User talk:Wolbo|talk]]) 10:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' [[The Berkshire Eagle]]'s cited article is a very good source (clip [https://www.newspapers.com/image/532918262/?clipping_id=123059466]), The State's less so as it consists of little secondary coverage and mostly relies on what Mayotte's saying/quotes instead. Hartford Courant's one is more of a Chris Mayotte vs Jeff Aarts match recap. I'm struggling to find something more in Newspapers beyond passing mentions, routine announcements or match recaps and listings. However, it's hard to put down someone who played over 170 matches total in ATP Tour, was in top 90 in singles and won 3 doubles titles, that's an overwhelming pass of [[WP:NTENNIS]]. If there was not a single significant coverage I'd lean on delete, but collectively I think it edges out a keep from me. [[User:Jovanmilic97|Jovanmilic97]] ([[User talk:Jovanmilic97|talk]]) 23:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
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