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The result was '''merge'''__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to [[Agriculture in Maryland]]. There were two Merge target mentioned and this one seemed to have more support. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 04:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:'''Delete''' - but possible '''merge''' into [[List of strawberry diseases]] - ? [[User:Denaar|Denaar]] ([[User talk:Denaar|talk]]) 01:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC) |
:'''Delete''' - but possible '''merge''' into [[List of strawberry diseases]] - ? [[User:Denaar|Denaar]] ([[User talk:Denaar|talk]]) 01:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Digging Further, there are individual pages on each of the diseases already, so this kind of info should probably move all the way to those disease pages? [[User:Denaar|Denaar]] ([[User talk:Denaar|talk]]) 01:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC) |
:::Digging Further, there are individual pages on each of the diseases already, so this kind of info should probably move all the way to those disease pages? [[User:Denaar|Denaar]] ([[User talk:Denaar|talk]]) 01:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to draft and refactor'''. After a little bit of digging, I note that we have one other state-based strawberry cultivation article, which is [[Strawberry cultivation in California]] (which cultivates the bulk of strawberries in the country). Nonetheless, many northeastern U.S. states have smaller but longstanding strawberry cultivation industries, so I would make this the cornerstone of an article on [[Strawberry cultivation in the Northeastern United States]], also covering the activities to this end in Maine, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, West Virginia, and Virginia (all of which have events listed at [[Strawberry festival]]). [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 03:22, 9 July 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Move to draft and refactor'''. After a little bit of digging, I note that we have one other state-based strawberry cultivation article, which is [[Strawberry cultivation in California]] (which cultivates the bulk of strawberries in the country). Nonetheless, many northeastern U.S. states have smaller but longstanding strawberry cultivation industries, so I would make this the cornerstone of an article on [[Strawberry cultivation in the Northeastern United States]], also covering the activities to this end in Maine, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, West Virginia, and Virginia (all of which have events listed at [[Strawberry festival]]). [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 03:22, 9 July 2023 (UTC) |
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* I'd suggest some sort of merge or re-think. I don't think the article works as it is. Too much of it is a secondary review of primary literature on strawberry diseases (we are supposed to be tertiary, not secondary), and the list of pesticides is uncomfortably close to being a specific "how-to" guide for strawberry growers in Maryland. Overall, I think the subject of strawberry growing in the US would be better covered by a general article that includes reference to the various strawberry growing states and their particular individual situation, rather than trying to wring an article out of rather little maryland-specific information. [[User:Elemimele|Elemimele]] ([[User talk:Elemimele|talk]]) 13:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC) |
* I'd suggest some sort of merge or re-think. I don't think the article works as it is. Too much of it is a secondary review of primary literature on strawberry diseases (we are supposed to be tertiary, not secondary), and the list of pesticides is uncomfortably close to being a specific "how-to" guide for strawberry growers in Maryland. Overall, I think the subject of strawberry growing in the US would be better covered by a general article that includes reference to the various strawberry growing states and their particular individual situation, rather than trying to wring an article out of rather little maryland-specific information. [[User:Elemimele|Elemimele]] ([[User talk:Elemimele|talk]]) 13:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Merge''' to [[Agriculture in Maryland]] (which I have conveniently unredirected and expanded) [[User:Horse Eye's Back|Horse Eye's Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye's Back|talk]]) 14:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
* '''Merge''' to [[Agriculture in Maryland]] (which I have conveniently unredirected and expanded) [[User:Horse Eye's Back|Horse Eye's Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye's Back|talk]]) 14:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' to [[Agriculture in Maryland]] per Horse Eye's Back seems okay, the main article [[Maryland#Agriculture]] needs a wiki link as well. - [[User:Indefensible|Indefensible]] ([[User talk:Indefensible|talk]]) 03:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Merge''' to [[Agriculture in Maryland]] per Horse Eye's Back seems okay, the main article [[Maryland#Agriculture]] needs a wiki link as well. - [[User:Indefensible|Indefensible]] ([[User talk:Indefensible|talk]]) 03:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*:I agree with this, best option for the time being, since it exists. —[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''χ'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 03:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC) |
*:I agree with this, best option for the time being, since it exists. —[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''χ'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 03:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge'''.. was literally about to write the same thing written above. Suggest a merge with [[Maryland#Agriculture]]. It lacks the notability to stand alone as it’s own article, but the information could compliment the information already present at the [[Maryland#Agriculture]] section quite nicely. [[User:4theloveofallthings|4theloveofallthings]] ([[User talk:4theloveofallthings|talk]]) [[User:4theloveofallthings|4theloveofallthings]] ([[User talk:4theloveofallthings|talk]]) 00:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' - I like the idea of a larger-scale strawberry cultivation article, but in the short term I think this is better housed at [[Maryland#Agriculture]]. [[Strawberry cultivation in California]] seems to stand on its own quite comfortably. --<span style="font-family:Courier">[[User:Elmidae|Elmidae]]</span> <small>([[User talk:Elmidae|talk]] · [[Special:contributions/Elmidae|contribs]])</small> 12:53, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' to [[Agriculture in Maryland]] per Horse Eye's Back. Just the merge target we need -- I was just going to observe that a paragraph on strawberry farming might be a bit undue in the [[Maryland]] article. It would definitely be good to have regional articles on strawberry cultivation as well, but for the time being this seems like a good home for this content. -- [[User:Visviva|Visviva]] ([[User talk:Visviva|talk]]) 23:22, 17 July 2023 (UTC) |
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The result was merge to Agriculture in Maryland. There were two Merge target mentioned and this one seemed to have more support. Liz Read! Talk! 04:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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Lack of notability. Incredibly niche. According to this article, it covers cultivation of strawberries on "210 acres" of land — out of Maryland's 2,000,000 acres of cultivated land. This is not a significant industry in Maryland. And its focus is even more niche: diseases of strawberries in Maryland. SilverLocust (talk) 23:55, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Biology, Organisms, and Maryland. SilverLocust (talk) 23:55, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- This seems well-sourced, but indeed the topic is a bit niche. I wonder if an appropriate move or merge target can be found, otherwise keep. All great Wikipedia topics start somewhere, and WP:NOTPAPER. —siroχo 10:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Almost all of the sources do not relate to Maryland, with the exception of the University of Maryland Extension material, the USDA census info (which just shows that the topic is not notable), and the source "First Report of Clover Yellow Edge and STRAWB2 Phytoplasmas in Strawberry in Maryland." SilverLocust (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure a merge to Strawberry would be appropriate, but it may be worth evaluating. Perhaps a move Strawberry cultivation with a subsection dedicated to regional cultivation. —siroχo 21:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- That would be entirely fine with me. Or Strawberry cultivation in the United States. There is already Strawberry cultivation in California, which is definitely notable. For context, "In the United States, fresh strawberries are primarily grown in California (roughly 90 percent annually) and Florida (about 8 percent), followed by New York, North Carolina, Oregon, and Washington." (USDA). SilverLocust (talk) 21:28, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure a merge to Strawberry would be appropriate, but it may be worth evaluating. Perhaps a move Strawberry cultivation with a subsection dedicated to regional cultivation. —siroχo 21:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Almost all of the sources do not relate to Maryland, with the exception of the University of Maryland Extension material, the USDA census info (which just shows that the topic is not notable), and the source "First Report of Clover Yellow Edge and STRAWB2 Phytoplasmas in Strawberry in Maryland." SilverLocust (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. This could pass muster as an encylopedic topic if the content was more specifically tailored to Maryland. Better rewritten with less technical material? Most of the content on diseases and spraying likely applies to strawberry cultivation in any location. If strawberry growing was an important agricultural pursuit in Maryland historically, then it could be notable. There's some big claims regarding historic strawberry production in this article Marion Station, Maryland, but how reliable they are is perhaps debatable. Doesn't seem of great importance nowadays — no mention of strawberries in Maryland#Agriculture. May be sufficient sources to meld together an article, e.g. https://collections.digitalmaryland.org/digital/collection/sovf/id/162/ for one. Need more time to look into this. Rupples (talk) 17:52, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can't decide whether there's enough to write a fully fledged article on this topic or not. As things stand most of the sources included are not specific enough to fit in with the article's title. It's not absolutely clear where this article fits in. If considering a merge, is it better merged to something like "Agriculture in Maryland" or "Strawberry cultivation in the US"? Rupples (talk) 23:25, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - but possible merge into List of strawberry diseases - ? Denaar (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Digging Further, there are individual pages on each of the diseases already, so this kind of info should probably move all the way to those disease pages? Denaar (talk) 01:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 02:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Move to draft and refactor. After a little bit of digging, I note that we have one other state-based strawberry cultivation article, which is Strawberry cultivation in California (which cultivates the bulk of strawberries in the country). Nonetheless, many northeastern U.S. states have smaller but longstanding strawberry cultivation industries, so I would make this the cornerstone of an article on Strawberry cultivation in the Northeastern United States, also covering the activities to this end in Maine, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, West Virginia, and Virginia (all of which have events listed at Strawberry festival). BD2412 T 03:22, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'd suggest some sort of merge or re-think. I don't think the article works as it is. Too much of it is a secondary review of primary literature on strawberry diseases (we are supposed to be tertiary, not secondary), and the list of pesticides is uncomfortably close to being a specific "how-to" guide for strawberry growers in Maryland. Overall, I think the subject of strawberry growing in the US would be better covered by a general article that includes reference to the various strawberry growing states and their particular individual situation, rather than trying to wring an article out of rather little maryland-specific information. Elemimele (talk) 13:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Agriculture in Maryland (which I have conveniently unredirected and expanded) Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:53, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I think there is a consensus to Merge but several different targets are mentioned in this discussion and I don't think the closer should randomly select which. Also a suggestion to Draftify it there is additional support for that option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:53, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Agriculture in Maryland per Horse Eye's Back seems okay, the main article Maryland#Agriculture needs a wiki link as well. - Indefensible (talk) 03:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with this, best option for the time being, since it exists. —siroχo 03:43, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
- Merge.. was literally about to write the same thing written above. Suggest a merge with Maryland#Agriculture. It lacks the notability to stand alone as it’s own article, but the information could compliment the information already present at the Maryland#Agriculture section quite nicely. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 4theloveofallthings (talk) 00:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Merge - I like the idea of a larger-scale strawberry cultivation article, but in the short term I think this is better housed at Maryland#Agriculture. Strawberry cultivation in California seems to stand on its own quite comfortably. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:53, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Agriculture in Maryland per Horse Eye's Back. Just the merge target we need -- I was just going to observe that a paragraph on strawberry farming might be a bit undue in the Maryland article. It would definitely be good to have regional articles on strawberry cultivation as well, but for the time being this seems like a good home for this content. -- Visviva (talk) 23:22, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.