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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Springbar|Springbar]] (January 17) ==
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by AngusWOOF was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This submission appears to [[WP:ARTSPAM|read more like an advertisement]] than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]], and should refer to a range of [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|independent, reliable, published sources]], not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiability policy]] and the [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]] of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.|}}<!--
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{{divbox|blue|3=A lot of advertising verbiage about quality and other promotional tones is still in the article. Needs to be rewritten neutrally by someone not associated with the company.

Whole sections of the article remain unreferenced and seem to point to website's Our History sections rather than independent coverage by external news sources.}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit ''after they have been resolved''.
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== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Springbar|Springbar]] (February 22) ==
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by Greenman was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This submission appears to [[WP:ARTSPAM|read more like an advertisement]] than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]], and should refer to a range of [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|independent, reliable, published sources]], not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiability policy]] and the [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]] of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.|}}<!--
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{{divbox|blue|3=The submission is still exceptionally promotional. There is a reason [[WP:COI]] editing is strongly discouraged.}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit ''after they have been resolved''.
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[[User:Greenman|Greenman]] ([[User talk:Greenman|talk]]) 22:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</div><!--Template:AfC decline-->

== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Draft:Springbar|Springbar]] (April 12) ==
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> [[File:AFC-Logo_Decline.svg|50px|left]]Your recent article submission to [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.<nowiki> </nowiki>The reason left by CNMall41 was:

{{divbox|gray|3=This draft's references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are: <br />
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{{divbox|blue|3=Even with everything referenced and promotional tone fixed, the company does not meet [[WP:NCORP]]. References in the draft fail [[WP:ORGCRIT]] and a quick search online found nothing better.}} Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit ''after they have been resolved''.
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[[User:CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) 19:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</div><!--Template:AfC decline-->

== Question... ==

Are you an employee of the company or are they your client? Not important as you have declared your paid status but just curious. Also, you do need to hit that Resubmit button for it to be considered. If the draft is accepted you or anyone affiliated with company should not edit it directly but rather make [[WP:edit requests]] (there is a handy [[WP:Edit Request wizard]]). [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 18:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:S0091|S0091]]Springbar is a client. And, yes, resubmitting would be good! Thanks for the insight! [[User:Xlea Nollmav|Xlea Nollmav]] ([[User talk:Xlea Nollmav#top|talk]]) 18:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

== Your submission at [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for creation]]: [[Springbar]] has been accepted ==
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== Inappropriate links ==

At several Wikipedia pages you have recently added links to [[Springbar]]. This not the only brand of spring-loaded tent, so singling out this particular brand is effectively advertising. Since you have noted that you have a conflict of interest in this area, I would suggest that you refrain from adding such links directly. If you think that such a link should be in a tent-related article, please put a request to add that link on the talk page of the article, and then let someone without a conflict of interest consider the addition. [[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] ([[User talk:Murray Langton|talk]]) 07:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] thank you for the feedback! I wasn't sure how to go about dealing with the "orphan" link issue. Clearly that is not the way, so thanks again. Should I go in and remove the links I added? [[User:Xlea Nollmav|Xlea Nollmav]] ([[User talk:Xlea Nollmav#top|talk]]) 13:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::If you look, you will see that I have already removed three such links. [[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] ([[User talk:Murray Langton|talk]]) 15:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Appreciate it, @[[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]]! [[User:Xlea Nollmav|Xlea Nollmav]] ([[User talk:Xlea Nollmav#top|talk]]) 17:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:I am not sure how to advise you re 'orphan' links. In my opinion, the [[Springbar]] article itself is rather close to being an advertisement. One possibility is to search for references to such tents which are independent of the company (i.e. no press releases) and see how such references can be incorporated in the article or related articles. Another possibility is to consider whether you can add links to [[Springbar]] in the 'See also' section of some tent or camping articles, or preferably suggest the addition of such links on a related talk page. Your basic problem is that Wikipedia discourages advertising, which is what you are being paid to do, so you need to be cautious. [[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] ([[User talk:Murray Langton|talk]]) 04:56, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] Thank you for your insight. I will look into all of that. How big of a deal is the orphan link thing — or is it? [[User:Xlea Nollmav|Xlea Nollmav]] ([[User talk:Xlea Nollmav#top|talk]]) 21:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

:::'orphan link' means that no other Wikipedia pages link to this one, which in turn means that very few readers will ever find the page, which rather defeats the purpose of having the page in the first place! [[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] ([[User talk:Murray Langton|talk]]) 05:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the insight, @[[User:Murray Langton|Murray Langton]] [[User:Xlea Nollmav|Xlea Nollmav]] ([[User talk:Xlea Nollmav#top|talk]]) 03:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:20, 15 August 2023

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Springbar (January 17)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by AngusWOOF was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 18:19, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Xlea Nollmav! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 18:19, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springbar (February 22)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Greenman (talk) 22:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springbar (April 12)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
CNMall41 (talk) 19:58, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question...

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Are you an employee of the company or are they your client? Not important as you have declared your paid status but just curious. Also, you do need to hit that Resubmit button for it to be considered. If the draft is accepted you or anyone affiliated with company should not edit it directly but rather make WP:edit requests (there is a handy WP:Edit Request wizard). S0091 (talk) 18:53, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@S0091Springbar is a client. And, yes, resubmitting would be good! Thanks for the insight! Xlea Nollmav (talk) 18:55, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springbar has been accepted

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Springbar, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

CNMall41 (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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At several Wikipedia pages you have recently added links to Springbar. This not the only brand of spring-loaded tent, so singling out this particular brand is effectively advertising. Since you have noted that you have a conflict of interest in this area, I would suggest that you refrain from adding such links directly. If you think that such a link should be in a tent-related article, please put a request to add that link on the talk page of the article, and then let someone without a conflict of interest consider the addition. Murray Langton (talk) 07:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Murray Langton thank you for the feedback! I wasn't sure how to go about dealing with the "orphan" link issue. Clearly that is not the way, so thanks again. Should I go in and remove the links I added? Xlea Nollmav (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you look, you will see that I have already removed three such links. Murray Langton (talk) 15:59, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate it, @Murray Langton! Xlea Nollmav (talk) 17:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure how to advise you re 'orphan' links. In my opinion, the Springbar article itself is rather close to being an advertisement. One possibility is to search for references to such tents which are independent of the company (i.e. no press releases) and see how such references can be incorporated in the article or related articles. Another possibility is to consider whether you can add links to Springbar in the 'See also' section of some tent or camping articles, or preferably suggest the addition of such links on a related talk page. Your basic problem is that Wikipedia discourages advertising, which is what you are being paid to do, so you need to be cautious. Murray Langton (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Murray Langton Thank you for your insight. I will look into all of that. How big of a deal is the orphan link thing — or is it? Xlea Nollmav (talk) 21:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
'orphan link' means that no other Wikipedia pages link to this one, which in turn means that very few readers will ever find the page, which rather defeats the purpose of having the page in the first place! Murray Langton (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the insight, @Murray Langton Xlea Nollmav (talk) 03:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]