User talk:RHaworth/2015 Jan 26

Ten Years

On 2015 Jan 1, I joined the Wikipedia Ten Year Society.
Will I make it for another ten?

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The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion

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Darent

River Darent I am trying to make this entry as accurate as possible. In providing what I believe to be the correct derivation of the name I used a reference to an Irish (Gaeilge) published by M.H.Gill in 1959 in Dublin. It was not my intention to produce a new and original article on the subject. During the work which is ongoing, and unless you continue to interfere, WILL be on-going I inadvertantly made the phrase (M.H.Gill) into a wikilink. After saving and SEEING it in blue I decided to check, discovered there was no link, but was invited by the code to produce one. because I am far too busy to be chasing butterflies I entered a couple of salient facts about M.H.Gill with the intention of returning to do the the job properly at a future date.

While I may be a little unconventional in my methodology, it is my main intent in life to ensure the truth is always told, most particularly on the internet, and irrespective of how I arrive at a result I have no problem in having a mentor, who will pick up the flotsam, or 'pull me up' and suggest a better way of doing things.

In the case of the River Darent, some previous subscriber had given a wrong explanation of the origin of the name. (I must now confess that my native language is Irish, English being acquired later.) Having researched the possibilities using an actual copy of Bartholomews Gazetteer (1951)i realise that the previous contributor had used the internet as a primary source and in particular had used an internet published appendix of the 1901 Gazetteer to arrive at an erroneous conclusion: a. that Darent and Darenth are the same word which they patently are NOT and b. obviously did not not check the primary source for the entries "Darent" and/or Darenth. This is the same sloppy research which has the Irish greet each other (and strangers) with "May the road rise to meet you".

And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ... However, I would love to here from you. Yours in letters etc. Seán de Bhál (Shaun Wall) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southockendon (talk • contribs) 18:58, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• Provisional reply. Note the difference between here and hear. Why not come to Penderell's Oak on Sunday and I can explain face to face but if you don't make it, I will give you a proper reply tomorrow. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• If you waffle at me I will waffle back. I once drove my car into the ford at Eynesford and got stuck. I was surprised to discover recently the rivers Eden and Darent start very close to each other, virtually in the same field behind Clacket Lane services.

Surely you mean that you had created a red link? I beseech you to think it possible that you may be mistaken if you think the title you created was optimum. You created M.H.Gill&Son Ltd. Dublin - this had a significant lack of spaces and the word Dublin was redundant. If you had bothered to do a bit of searching you would have found Gill & Macmillan and I suggest that if you have anything more to say about M. H. Gill & Son it should be added to that article. Note that creating redirects can be useful. I have restored your stub - check your contribs history.

On the other hand, if after diligent searching you cannot find any article on a certain subject, then it is foolhardy to leave an unreferenced stub in mainspace for more that five minutes. Start your article in a user sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

About the Hindi name of Dhalsim

Hi, I'm a new user in English Wiki. I want to ask you about how do you know that the Hindi name of Dhalsim is "धल्सिम"? Can you give me some source? The reason why I'm ask you is I edited "धल्सिम" in Japanese Wiki for Dhalsim, but someone undid my edit ([1]). That's why I need a source to prove my viewpoint is right. I Hope you can help me and thank you very much. Nächsten erbe (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have absolutely no idea and I wonder why you are asking me. I cannot immediately find a group of Hindi-speaking Wikipedians. But try asking your question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Ballet Pixelle (part II)

Thank you for your help and understanding. There are now numerous wikilinks and significant references. User:Calia42/sandbox is now at a place where other editors are starting to find it and edit it. Is this ok to publish? And, I have looked for help, but how do I publish (using "move")? Thank you. Calia42 (talk) 04:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC) (contribs) 04:08, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• Correct. You publish by moving it to Ballet Pixelle rather than your cack-handed attempt at a move. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.Calia42 (talk) 06:10, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Request for content of deleted article

Hi Roger, Congrats on a decade on Wikipedia! I am looking at a few articles and was wondering if you could help with the contents of a deleted page at Tyler Lim. You mentioned being able to retrieve deleted content on your talk page, would this be one of those? Thanks! Pieters3933 (talk) 08:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have emailed you a state of the article and a diff report of some negative comments added by Nbishonen (talk · contribs). Although the negative comments were reverted by I dream of horses (talk · contribs) I would give them some credence. See this message. Note that Pacohchen (talk · contribs), the author of the article blanked it which we took as a request to delete and that the official website link does not work. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
• See also this from Melbourne. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:39, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Remove protection

Hi, Can you please remove the creation protection from the page Tahsan? I will move the page Tahsan Rahman Khan to Tahsan as he is mostly known by this name. Thanks in advance. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 15:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

And also remove the protection from Mehazabien Chowdhury. I will move the Mehazabien page to Mehazabien Chowdhury. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 15:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

• I am a bit dubious about the notability of Mehazabien but I have moved both. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. -Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 04:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Babar Javed - Director & Producer

Hello RHaworth, You deleted this article; Saqib mosin recreated it literally moments after you deleted the old one and with the exact same advertorial content. May need salting. Thanks, --ceradon (talk • contribs) 10:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Or perhaps just move it to their userspace as a draft? --ceradon (talk • contribs) 10:46, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Confuosion

You are not a true representation of what this site was intended for. How can I get you removed as Admin?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosta matt (talk • contribs) 15:06, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Your page was, quite rightly, deleted with fire. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Peacelink page deleted

Hi, with regards to the page PeaceLinkLive which was deleted under speedy deletion. I have re-created the page here User:VA1979/Peacelink with a few changes. Kindly review and also note that most of the material that matches the linked pages are celebrity names and statements made to describe the movement which are similar on all PR websites and the official website also. I think this may not be a violation. If you disagree please help me understand why exactly this page should remain deleted and how I can bring it back again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VA1979 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Reviewed and moved to Draft:Peacelink Live!. Sit back and wait to see what a draft reviewer thinks of it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Electro page deletion.

Hello, I understand that my page has been deteted. All i want is for you to put my page back or, send me a backup of my page to <redacted>. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electro (Music Producer) (talk • contribs) 05:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

• Emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Barbara Jordan School of Public Affairs

Hello. Barbara Jordan School of Public Affairs was deleted a while ago. I'm a Graduate Assistant for the department of public affairs and i was assigned to design a wiki-page for the school. Contents that were presumed copied from the webpage school of affairs are contents for the school. It was later i read that there were terms and conditions to fulfill. I made that known to the school, and materials as been provided to continue with the page. Would wait for your response as soon as possible. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blecaf (talk • contribs) 01:05, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• The subject is probably adequately covered within the Texas Southern University article. With your declared COI you should not be contributing but you might get away with modest, well-referenced edits to the TSU article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Biram Dah Abeid

Hi, I have realized that you have changed the content of article Biram Dah Abeid yesterday. This article was a stub when I first saw it and I expanded it to include more references and details. But you have reverted the article back to original text. Kindly help me understand what was wrong with the expansion and details added. — VA1979 (talk) 09:36, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• Please learn a) to put new messages at the bottom of a talk page and b) to use wikilinks not external link format. The phrases "rising star", "unrelenting desire", etc. triggered my attention. In Wikipedia we prefer articles to grow organically. Heavy re-writes are usually only acceptable when the previous version was deplorable. In this case, at 5k bytes the previous article was far from being a stub. To do a heavy replace was dubious. To do a heavy replace inserting copyvio material was little better than vandalism. Please discuss any further changes to this article on the talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Natural Security

Dear Roger, I contact you regarding the following topic : 21:08, 8 January 2015 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Natural Security (standard) (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://naturalsecurityalliance.org/blog/natural-security-core-specifications/). In fact, there is no infringement as I wrote this part and post it on the website of the Natural Security Alliance. Do you suggest to rewrite it ? With kindest regards André Delaforge Natural Security Alliance +33 6 66 68 04 61 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adelaforge at naturalsecurityalliance (talk • contribs) 15:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• Do I suggest to rewrite it? No I suggest to wait until someone with no COI decides it is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Operations Research

Italian Operations Research Society and Finnish Operations Research Society. I declined your speedy on these articles because I think that national level societies such as this have at least a claim to importance or significance. It might or might not be notable, however, if you want to use AfD. DGG ( talk ) 16:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

User page Moseley101 deletion

Sorry, am I missing something? I am trying to get my draft article assessed by someone so I can apply appropriate changes. That is very difficult when it is not up for more than 12 hours. If the sandbox is not the appropriate place (it has already suffered speedy deletion twice), and clearly my user page is also the wrong place, where should I do this? — Moseley101 (talk) 18:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Moseley101: When your attempts have been deleted 3 times for being unambiguous promotion, the first step would be to start with something that is not promotional hype. "Just the facts, ma'am." -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:26, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• Just for once and despite the fact that you probably have a COI, I am not going to intone my "kindly have the decency …" mantra. We do have articles about several articles about Model United Nationses so if you can create a non-spammy article it might just stick. Submit as a draft via the AfC process. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Şahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi

Hi it looks like you deleted Sahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi. This page should not be speedily deleted because: The article Şahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi substitutes the article Az:Şahdağ Qış-Yay Turizm Kompleksi. Şahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi is the new official name of the ski resort as it is included in www.shahdag.az or in the Wikipedia article Shahdag Mountain Resort.

The article Şahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi include many of the information covered in Az:Şahdağ Qış-Yay Turizm Kompleksi and includes many other updated information about the ski resort. The article in Azeri includes very similar information included in the articles in English Shahdag Mountain Resort and the article in Russian ru:Шахдагский зимне-летний туристический комплекс.

The article has been created and traduced from the articles English Shahdag Mountain Resort and Шахдагский зимне-летний туристический комплекс by the professional writer and translator from Azerbaijan Saida Asvarova. Thank you for your understanding. David — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Uriarte (talk • contribs) 14:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

• Article forks are deprecated, so tell Saidaasv (talk · contribs) to move Az:Şahdağ Qış-Yay Turizm Kompleksi to az:Şahdağ Turizm Mərkəzi and update it with the new name. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:26, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

History of the Ordeal in England

Hello, I recently created an article called History of the Ordeal in England that you deleted for copyright violation. I am the copyright holder of the work that was copied and I have made this work available under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License. I was hoping that you could reinstate the page or give me the text of the deleted page so that I can re-post it. — AlexanderGerten (talk) 15:32, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

• Not that it makes any difference at all but you use cc-by-sa-4.0 for your page and do not mention the gnu. The copyvio aspect can easily be solved. More problematical is the style - essays are deprecated. Wikipedia is not a free host but your essay smacked very much of using it as one. You have done an absolute minimum to create a Wikipedia article - you could not even manage to link to the ordeal article. You created one wikilink and could not get that one right. I have restored it to Draft:History of the ordeal in England. But if you actually want to contribute to Wikipedia, I recommend you to go carefully through existing articles in this area and improve them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Deleted file (photo)

Dear Mr. Haworth, You recently deleted a file I uploaded to my page, citing copyright violation. I noted in my upload the the file was released to the public as a publicity photo by Warner Brothers, as such anyone can use it with attribution. Please explain what other information you need that will allow me to use that file in on my page. Here is the link to my page: Ira Flatow. Thank you. Iflatow (talk) 03:21, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

• Terminology: even if you are Ira Flatow, you cannot refer to Ira Flatow as "my page" - read this. It is the page about you. Please provide a link to the deleted file and, more importantly, evidence that the image has been released. "Evidence provided on request" is simply not good enough - evidence must be provided at the time of upload. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

OR national societies pages

Hello, You proposed deletion of some national Operations Research pages for the lack of evidence of notability.

• Finnish Operations Research Society
• Hungarian Operations Research Society
• Italian Operations Research Society

I strongly disagree with that: Operations Research is a very important topic in academy and research, and national OR societies are at the heart of contributing and promoting the discipline. For example, many mathematical national societies have their wiki page, I don't see why OR would have a different treatment.

Furthermore, no such problem seems to exist for

• Danish Operations Research Society
• Operations Research Society of South Africa
• Operational Research Society

I don't see why some national OR societies should deserve different treatment. My goal in the long run is to have one wiki page for all European OR societies. Bfortz (talk) 11:11, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have prodded the articles where no attempt has been made to provide evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

"Removed vandalism by...?"

Hi. Just noticed this edit on my watchlist. Fair comment about the vandalism, but I think you might mean "rapper" instead of [redacted]. I don't know if you can change your summary, but it might be an idea to fix that. — Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

It is not possible to change edit summaries, so I have deleted the summary (the edit is fine and remains). Ritchie333, I have also redacted it from your comment above and will be deleting that edit too. Even though it is almost certainly an innocent error, it is not something that should be publicly visible. — Thryduulf (talk) 13:50, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

That's fine - I think this was nothing more than a typo that was misread. — Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:55, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

• I was surprised how long Private Eye allowed Bill Tidy to write about the Blagdon amateur [redacted]. But is the word so sensitive that it may not even be used humorously in an edit summary? The edit I reverted unambiguously stated "he started [redacted] in 2013". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

The trouble with humour is it doesn't travel well internationally at all - I'm sure stereotypical Americans watching Frankie Boyle in his heyday on Mock The Week would be shocked, and we all know about Charlie Hebdo which, at the bottom line, has humour as a core value. For what it's worth, I laughed at the typo, but somebody who's prepared to use WT:CSD as a place to contest (what appears to be) a very obvious A7, and who might not have English as a first language might not see the funny side of it over a spelling mistake. Jus' saying. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:30, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

It's all about context. You have to assume that an edit summary will be read without reference to the associated edit or any other context not explicitly referenced (hence the "see talk" summaries). In this case it read like the editor who was reverted was being accused of being a serious criminal, even if that was not the intent. Thryduulf (talk) 17:04, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Skip Kelly

You deleted the bio I had written about Skip Kelly. Would you be able to undelete that so that I can retain a copy of the text and links that I worked very hard to collect? User:Paulinaperez82/sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulinaperez82 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

• The only thing I deleted was a redirect left behind after a move. But to save you the trouble of contacting the person who deleted draft:Skip Kelly I have emailed you the text. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:14, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
• Thank you! — Paulinaperez82 (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 16:14, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

From User:Akshay Das XXX

I understood that I was using Wikipedia like a blog or a social network,as I was giving more importance to my personal information.Thanks for warning me.From now on I will stress more upon what to contribute.Thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akshay Das XXX (talk • contribs) 01:47, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Hundal95 & User:Hundalsahej

I am reviewing the user's UTRS ticket, and I am wondering about something: WP:SOCK says that: If you have lost the password to an existing Wikipedia account (...) you may well want to create a new account with a clean password. This seems to be what the user did, as they now claim, including putting the new account name on the old one's userpage. And yet you blocked the later account as a sock of the former one, despite no overlap and clear linking by the user themselves. Is there something else going on I am not aware of and that I should know before unblocking? Thanks. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 21:14, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

• Do you really think he is going to make useful contributions? But go ahead and unblock if you wish. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Open strategy

Hello RHaworth, I hope you are well. I just searched for an article on open strategy which you have deleted a couple of month ago. Could you send me the deleted article as I am going to write a contribution on this topic, which is a rather new concept in academia and practice (currently there are 2-3 research papers on Wikimedia which successfully applied the concept). In order to overcome the shortcomings of the earlier version, it would be nice if you could share the old version. Thanks and kind regards, Asta15 (talk) 23:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

• Restored to user:Asta15/sandbox. To get an article to stick you must provide evidence that the idea has been noticed outside academia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:32, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Flags in infobox

Is it correct to use flag icon, like India in the country field of info boxes?--Vin09 (talk) 11:10, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have no idea. Find six examples of the use of the country field in info boxes. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I think I can answer this one: Vin09, in general, no it isn't – see WP:INFOBOXFLAG. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Pritam Pal

Sir I have edited the page Justice Pritam Pal which was earlier deleted by you in the name of copyright violation. Though I term that there was none as the profile I posted was of Ombudsman of a state of India and the biodata was taken from public sources. The biodata is also available on official site http://www.hrlokayukta.gov.in.

Now I want to repost the same with other external links and with more detailed outlook. Please guide me as to how it has to be done as the earlier alleged copyright violation was of a General Knowledge website which also posts data after collecting it from different sources. I had contested the speedy deletion but yet it was deleted. Now I have a brand new page ready with me including the photograph of the personality and I want to post the same. Kindly guide. I appreciate your patient hearing. Kindly bear with me as I am new to Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srin2015 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

• Probably now OK. Please note that you do not make up categories - you find existing ones. And what is the idea of the weird "back to" link? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Radio Republike Srpske

hello Roger, please can you explain why the page Radio Republike Srpske has been deleted? I would really like to make the changes required for the page to work ! thanks in advance, Anja — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnjaMatarugic (talk • contribs) 15:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

• I would prefer to see the content of Televizija Republike Srpske merged into Radio Televizija Republike Srpske and Televizija Republike Srpske converted into a redirect. Obviously your one-sentence, unreferenced article stood no chance of survival. Anything you have to say about the radio station can be added to Radio Televizija Republike Srpske. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Hayley Knight

Very similar to Evan DeLauter which you've just deleted. PamD 16:26, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

• Dealt with. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

File:Fab Five Texas Cheerleader Scandal.jpg

Will you undelete the file for me please? --George Ho (talk) 22:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

• Done. Needs to be used soon. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Ronald Savage deletion

RHaworth - How can you delete a research on a great man that stands for hope for so many people with disability, you call yourself admin, you should be band yourself, being that you did not fully read WHY the first contributions to Ronald Savage was deleted because I didn't add the useful meaning of Author Ronald Savage to which I added it as I was told. Then you come behind and say it is a dub of the first, of cause it is but the usefulness was added (re-look at the bold text which was added, and you deleted something that was asked to be put in). How dear you even delete someone who gives hope to so many people. I think I will report this to the news this is clearly an attack on people with disabilities BY YOU. I will send this research on Ronald Savage with your deleted Admin and see what the NEWS HAS TO SAY ABOUT YOU ON WIKIPEDIA.ORG. I think you really need to think about what you deleted, and how this is a clear attack on people with disabilities. You need to rethink what you did and UN-BLOCK your CRUEL BLOCK ON SOMEONE WITH disabilities that has done great things and doing great things. — 98.116.213.162 (talk) 03:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@anon. user - The article was simply created too many times, mainly because of copyright infringements. You cannot just simply copy/paste from a website and put it on here (especially when it comes to biographies of living persons), it needs to be rewritten with your own words. DivineAlpha (talk) 04:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

See this is where he is wrong this was not a cut and paste at all, nothing about this story was copied. This is why I say people really need to get their FACTS RIGHT before commenting or deleting anything, if this was the case for it being took down, then it needs to be UN-Blocked. The FIRST [and second] story was cut and paste, but this story was not copied or cut from anywhere.This block was and is a mis-use OF POWER and violates Wikipedia rule. This story is written in my own words, and no Content of the story violates any copyrights, therefore it needs to go back up, before anyone deletes it again or blocks it do your own research FIRST before blocking it again, and there is no one on this site that can say this was or is a cut and paste token from anywhere, how I can say this it's because I wrote this on my own and is my research paper for school, I took down my own notes from when he spoke at my Community Center and I told him I was going to write about him from these notes. — 98.116.213.162 (talk) 11:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC) BE

Ronald Savage deletion. RHaworth - I have read your response to the unjust deletion on the Contents of Author Ronald Savage, that does not violate any copyrights and the useful meaning of this Author was added new to the article, The consensus decision as you claim seem to be judged on the issue of the missing importance of the Author that I left out that was not in the first article but since has been added as requested and your new deletion was done without you reading the new added contents. I would LOVE to hear your response to the deletion of this fine author and one of the only elected officials with Tourette Syndrome be deleted after the new important information that shows its significances was added as requested. — Ronald Savage 23:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC) buzzent Ronald Savage 23:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buzzent (talk • contribs)

• Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

RHaworth, now what are you talking about? who would write about me? I'm not understanding what you are trying to say. I wrote about Author Ronald Savage, Not about me, First we were talking about the article I wrote on Ronald Savage, I did the same article for my term paper and got a B- on it, now your talking about something that you just lost me on, Your saying wait until someone writes about me, What do I have to do with Ronald Savage the author, you just totally confused me, as if I am writing about myself. Now I know you are not now claiming that I am auther Ronald Savage, if I was him why in the world would I be on here writing a story on him, this Man has hundreds of thousands of dollars, It seem that now you are trying to claim that I am writing about myself and just wait for someone to write about me, I hope that is not what you are claiming, if so that is a loser move to me, as if you have nothing else to say because I was right about you just blocking the article without reading it, as you admitted to me that is what you did, now you're claiming I'm a author, is this a professional website ? What a defamation of character claim, this is the first... SMH, I will just handle this by bringing it up to the next level and deal with Wikipedia, I trued to deal with you as it states to do first, now you're claiming I'm author Ronald Savage the author because that is what it sound like to me. — (UTC) Buzzent 00:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The fact that you signed your previous message "Ronald Savage" (as you did when you originally posted this message itself before you changed the signature on it, and as you did in your most recent message on your own talk page) was reasonable grounds for RHaworth to assume that you are Ronald Savage. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Please explain why your signature included the name Ronald Savage if you are not he. The best I can offer as far as getting an article in, is that you should follow this advice and find an experienced Wikipedian to write about you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Airborne Tactical Advantage Company

Please reinstate the article I wrote on Airborne Tactical Advantage Company back in 2012. It's deletion was wrong because the sources were legitimate and this company just crashed yet another airplane (October 2013 in California, see <http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/10/29/aircraft-reported-down-in-city-of-port-hueneme/>) which is why I wrote the article to begin with. I recall the reason for deletion in 2012 was related to using supposedly poor sources, but there are lots of decent sources available on this company, and its (many) airplane crashes including mainstream US media (CBS, CNN, ABC, NPR etc.) plus US Government agency sources (NTSB, Federal Aviation Administration), and I can list more if you would just put the article back up. They crash jets a lot and Wikipedia needs this article! C/J — Preceding unsigned comment added by Concept Jet (talk • contribs)

• (talk page stalker) this was a G13 deletion and following a request at WP:REFUND it has been restored to Draft:Airborne Tactical Advantage Company. JohnCD (talk) 20:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Card based arcade game

Please let it resurface as User:Card based arcade game. -- Tripple-ddd (talk) 09:01, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• You were correct with this edit. Did you see the deletion reason against User:Card based arcade game? Restored to User:Tripple-ddd/Card based arcade game but I think it might be better with an hyphen - card-based. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:05, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hi there, I noticed that you deleted some of the pages that I tagged for CSD. I've one request if you can help? A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 20:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• So what is your request? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Is it necessary that content creation is must to go for adminship? A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 05:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Replied on your user talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Some part of your comment on my talk page really disappointed me, plus encouraged me also. I take your comment as a compliment. I don't need any kind of adminship for my own purpose or any COI if you think like that, I am fine with the tools I am working on. I can also work manually without any further tool if you think that I am only looking for adminship tools etc. I won't tell anyone what experience I have or won't ask anyone for RfA nomination, will never ever go for adminship. You can't judge anyone with the No. of edits, but you can only judge with the way how an editor makes edits. Sometime I get disappointed alot when things become personal but I always assume good faith....Do respect, get respect...! A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 19:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Deleting two redirects

Would you delete these two redirects?

• Sino-Pak friendship
• Military rule in pakistan

Redundant, created by a trolling sock, and 'p' or Pakistan should be capitalized. Thanks. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and these two:

• 2014 school attack
• 2014 school massacre

Neither only school related "attack" or "massacre" of 2014. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 09:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Why these requests? Have you had similar requests via speedy tag declined? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert T. Beyer

Please restore Robert T. Beyer. I was in the process of looking up sources. There's a biography of him at the American Acoustics Society. Why the rush to wipe out something that's obviously a work in progress? Thanks! 12:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleuther (talk • contribs)

• It was not obvious that it was wip. It had been sitting untouched for three hours and it was no different from similar one sentence stubs which get rightly deleted by dozens every day. An editor with eight years experience ought to jolly well know that it is utterly foolhardy to start a page in mainspace. Restored to user:Eleuther/Robert T. Breyer. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Three hours, wow! I would say instead that an editor with eight years experience ought to receive a bit of slack from the pissant patrol. But that's just me, it's not a policy. Eleuther (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

• @Eleuther: be realistic - how am I expected to recognise that an article has been submitted by an experienced editor. It would at least treble the number of pages I need to view. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow, treble. And it might require some thinking too. You're right, it's much too much of a burden to place on a such an elevated person as yourself. Pardon my intrusion. Eleuther (talk) 17:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Daubism

I came across a reference to the term "daubist movement" online, so I looked up daubism on Wikipedia to find out what, if anything, it was. I discovered that the page was deleted by you in April 2011, on the grounds that it was a "blatant hoax".

Having never heard of it myself I clearly have no bias here, but it does appear to be a real thing, and arguably notable as a catalyst for a 2000 reform of Australian copyright law. Mentions on reputable websites include this and this (footnote 297).

In light of this, I wonder if you can provide any information supporting your decision to delete the page. I realise it was a long time ago. — 14.2.51.24 (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• (See also this AfD discussion.) The deletion decision was very simple. A more realistic deletion reason would have been "non-notable art movement with no evidence offered". But since that is not a standard speedy deletion criterion, I was happy to let the nominator's "hoax" tag stand.

But it was about something completely different. Its text is preserved here in the Wikibin.

A quick Google search suggests that there are sufficient reliable sources for the Australian daubism. So if you were to create an account and write an article, it would probably stick. Or you could request a new article here and here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:51, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Canyouhearmeknocking415 & co.

As you've started cleaning this sock drawer, may I direct you to a few more?

• User:Lightning1234
• User:Copernicus1234
• User:Bentsutomu12345

Like the late User:Bentsutomu1234, these accounts did nothing but post the anti-Einsteinian ramblings of "Ben T. Ito" to userspace pages, now deleted. One more, User:Coolcatgogo, is now at MfD—perhaps you could put it out of its misery? Thanks, הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 18:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Was there ever an SPI for any of the Canyouhearmeknocking415 (Ben T. Ito) socks? — Meters (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Bentsutomu is clearly him too (but now dormant). Gives full name in User:Bentsutomu/sandbox as Ben Tsutomu Ito. — Meters (talk) 20:51, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Why do we need an SPI? The sock puppetry is so self-evident. I did think of starting one myself to document the situation but there is a standard, rather messy format with which I am not familiar. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Just asking. For those of us who are not admins it is not possible to easily deal with future socks without either having an existing SPI or starting one (it can be viewed as a personal attack to revert an edit as socking unless there is an SPI case or one is then started). I've seen new sock cases sometimes sit for a week or two before anyone looks at them, so it can be rather frustrating. Anyways, it looks as if Bentsutomu is actually the master. Meters (talk)

Thank you. Formalizing the sockpuppetry charge—whether by the usual SPI, or as you did here—also helps with marking future nonsense (and there will be: see his MO on other sites) as G5. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 23:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Move to topic:

Hi RHaworth, I was trying to take a look at the srticle Kuttiattoor Thittayil Sree Daivathar Temple, which is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kuttiattoor Thittayil Sree Daivathar Temple (2nd nomination). But the creator moved it to Topic:Kuttiattoor Thittayil Sree Daivathar Temple. When I try to see that, it says "Bad title". I tried undoing the move, but it doesn't seem to be working. Can you tell me what is going on with this article/topic? Thanks,  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  21:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• I have never seen the topic: namespace before. Beats me too. I have put in a plea for help at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Off topic!. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Pavement (engineering)

While this article might have been a little thin (no pun intended), it is replaced by....nothing. "Road surface" comes closest, but the article title is being used incorrectly, and the body reflects that. — Anmccaff (talk) 00:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

• So what are you suggesting or asking me to do? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Restore it, possibly with a note at the two closest related articles suggesting consolidation. — Anmccaff (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

• So which do you consider to be the "two closest related articles"? The entire content of the article was

  In engineering, a pavement or pavement structure is a multi-layered structure designed and built for the purpose of bearing loads and enduring the weather.

If you can provide reliable evidence that this is a widely used definition, add it to the road surface article and create a redirect at pavement (engineering). If not, nothing needs to be done. — — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

"Pavement" is the default term for "any road material bar fill" in many anglophone countries, and even seen in British technical publications. "Road surface," on the other hand, often means literally that, the uppermost boundary. This is akin to deleting the entry for "dog" and redirecting it to "fur."Anmccaff (talk) 17:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Tarek Okasha

@RHaworth hello dear, i created a page under title of Tarek Okasha, and it was speedy deleted because it had no content. How can i write the content after deletion. Or should i recreate the page. Thank u. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3adel80 (talk • contribs)

• So why should creating a page be any different now from when you first did it? The title is not (yet) protected. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Criticism of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

I created this article and was tagged for speedy deletion because there was another article of the same name which was deleted because of lacking sources or other issues before I joined wikipedia but my article has reliable sources. Can you check the matter. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 10:36, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

• Quite simply, we do not allow content forks. Text moved to User:Owais Khursheed/Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Discuss proposed changes at talk:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. Incidentally, I shall be reviewing your large number of user pages to see to what extent you are using Wikipedia as a free host. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me) 10:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Androphobia

Hi, What happened with the Androphobia AfD? As I posted on the requests for move page, I nominated it. Twinkle created it as 2nd nomination. I saw "2 nomination" already existed and thus my nomination was the third. I moved the "2nd" I just created to "3rd" and requested "2" be moved to "2nd" for naming purposes. Now it looks like you've deleted the original second nomination and moved the third into its place? It's all quite confusing, of course, so I may be misunderstanding what you did. --— Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

• I blame it all on Philg88 (talk · contribs) for doing this move to the Wikipedia:Wikipedia: namespace. Please check that all is now as you like it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:02, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Looks good. Just went through and changed the delsort links again and I think all is in order. Thanks. --— Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:42, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

• Mea culpa - I should have checked the namespace. Sorry guys.  Philg88 ^♦talk 22:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Institute of Polymaths

Hello, it is not clear why the educational page Institute of Polymaths was deleted from Wikipedia? Can you clarify your criteria. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.49.47.146 (talk) 00:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

The Institute of Polymaths is a valid educational page, your criteria for deletion do not seem just, please can you retract it. Kindest regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:630:12:2E1B:A839:B005:E248:4EB1 (talk) 16:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sara Goldrick-Rab

Hi, I would like to request a reduction in the protection level for Sara Goldrick-Rab. A draft of the proposed new article is available at Draft:Sara Goldrick-Rab. While she did not meet notability guidelines in the past, I believe she does now according to the guidelines and "Average Professor Test" suggested here, given her influence on President Obama's free community college proposal. I hope that my draft has demonstrated this notability, though I'm happy to include more (and different) types of sources to show her influence within higher education more clearly. Additionally, if you have any additional suggestions for the article, I would appreciate your feedback. This article is my first, so I'm sure your comments would be helpful. Thank you for your time. Have a great day! OkfochushTikabi (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Somewhat premature. Come back when the draft has actually been accepted. Which of your references pass the "links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources" test? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

BTouz14458

Hello, I just want to let you know this user is keep on creating non-notable just spammy article on different football season's, events etc you deleted like this and this. Recently one more article is created 2014-15 FBL Season. — A.Minkowiski ^{_Lets t@lk} 19:05, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:24, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Erik Winquist

Okay well Erik Winquist is a Oscar nominee so not sure why he is up for a speedy. I have some refs and stuff, but yeah its odd. Wgolf (talk) 22:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

• The speedy tag clearly states: do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. Have you actually provided links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Yeah there is the Oscar page-I feel bad I removed it-sorry about that. Anyway thanks for that notice and everything. Wgolf (talk) 01:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) RHaworth, I've already raked Wgolf over the coals for removing the tag. He has provided reliable sources in support of the nom, so I've declined the speedy.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Do you remember the story with this IP editor?

I see you deleted Agaton Sax and the Byköpings Village Festival in 2013. I recall that there is a disruptive Swedish-based IP editor with a thing for these animated children's films and a tendency to create articles on them and associated actors in talk space, but I don't remember whether he/she is banned or what. 192.36.199.130 is currently active and has recreated Talk:Agaton Sax och Byköpings gästabud (film), which you deleted in November 2014, and which has just been redeleted. Clearly the same person or group; do you recall whether it's a revert on sight or an expect bad edits but judge on the merits case? Yngvadottir (talk) 12:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

They have successfully created a couple of new articles via others moving them out of talk space into article space. Of these Krakel Spektakel is seriously problematic. The Swedish is coherent and depending on the editor's status, I'll either expand it and try to demonstrate notability or pursue deletion. I'm going to leave a note on the editor's talk page about unexplained blanking, removal of maintenance templates, and bad English, again in case the user is not banned. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• If 192.36.199.133 (talk) is currently globally blocked, then 192.36.199.130 should be blocked as well so I have done that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:42, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Ah ok, thanks, that means it is some sort of ban, I'll revert less fastidiously next time. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Later Sui Empire

Later Sui Empire (dominating usurp during 1418-1644). The article is new build version which I do develop and different form former similiar version of it. This version is not mangled, not vandal and not Hoax. Because, the article uses authentic text and legal books as listed at the article references section. The chinese used there can be read at online ctext.org which legally title of document. Why do the deletion? Please restore and undelete the page if you can? — ADHZ07111989 (talk) 14:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• I can see very little difference in the references between your latest version and the version deleted following the MfD discussion. But feel free to try again at Draft:Later Sui Empire. If you need a copy of your deleted text, read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Page deleted for copyright infringement.

RHaworth,

I am trying to identify and remove the offending material from the deleted page, and could find no trace of the deleted page. I have attempted to recreate the content without infringing information, but the new submission is denied for having the same title as the deleted page.

Would it be easiest to resubmit under a new title?

08:54, 26 September 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mark Anthony the “Psychic Lawyer,” (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Mark-Gager/37933663)

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Mark_Anthony_the_%E2%80%9CPsychic_Lawyer,%E2%80%9D&action=edit&redlink=1

Thank you for any assistance you can provide. eWareTroy — Preceding unsigned comment added by EwareTroy (talk • contribs) 18:21, 26 January 2015 (UTC)