Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Chris and The Dickens"

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The result was Delete --JForget 00:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Chris and the Dickens

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Contested PROD. Non-notable band. Only references provided are myspace and youtube. Roleplayer (talk) 03:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete. provincial notability, fails WP:MUSIC. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:MUSIC with a little bit of WP:CRYSTAL mixed in! What a twist! phøenixMøurning ( ^talk/_contribs ) 03:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No references or sources to show notability per WP:BAND. Also, most of the info in the article is unverified and fails WP:V. Nsk92 (talk) 03:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, non-notable per WP:MUSIC, no WP:RS. --Kinu ^t/_c 03:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I combined these two near-duplicate pages and their respective AFDs into one. --Dhartung | Talk 04:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Many thanks to you Dhartung. phøenixMøurning ( ^talk/_contribs ) 04:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Delete per nom.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 08:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Fails every critereon of WP:MUSIC. It reads like a press release for the band and seems to use Wikipedia as the website for a band who are too lazy to open a LiveJournal. Come back when you meet WP:MUSIC (Opening for The Toasters does not make you notable by itself). Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 10:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - not notable. Jack?! 14:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have refrences to radio stations, a newspapers, also prominent punk rock forums and websites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.128.242 (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• I have added refrences, and am proceeding to add more, Emails have been sent out to many websites requesting confirmation on information. The information is creditable, maybe not the MOST note worthy, but is in soem sort fo demand.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Flatfootedninja (talk • contribs) 02:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

What will be needed to make this more notable I read WP:BAND, and tried to match but I am assuming there needs to be more. I have this article's design saved, so I can add to it offline and hopefully make it notable enough.tutamensinenoism 02:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)fla4tf00t3dn1nja —Preceding comment was added at 02:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Refrences should be enough for now, WRFL.fm doesnt have a sensible way to search playlist, and I am serching for another radio station in Cincinnati, this effort to prove notabilty is a 10 man effort right now.flatfootedninja —Preceding unsigned comment added by 02:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)Flatfootedninja (talk • contribs) 02:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

*Comment. I don't think you're fully understanding. The article MUST pass WP:MUSIC to be able to pass this. phøenixMøurning ( ^talk/_contribs ) 08:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• WP:SNOW Delete. Fails WP:MUSIC. Húsönd 02:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep! Ledger Independent can verify. They have been played on UK's radio station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.164.225.35 (talk) 03:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

dont DELETE! notabilty can be on anyscale,a this band has made a HUGE regional impact, and SKa right now is almost a dead genre, it's completely underground with the new 4th wave, there may be only a few dozen ska bands that tour nationally, thsi band has made movements to conenct two regions essential to SKA's growth --flatf00t3dn1nja 01:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flatfootedninja (talk • contribs)

Notability in general can be on any scale, but to be notable for Wikipedia this band still has to meet Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Verifiability. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 01:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

wpverifiability shouldn't be a problem, right nwo the arguement is what is consider notable,and if it is on a national or regional scale —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flatfootedninja (talk • contribs) 02:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

At the moment, it appears to be neither... just another local band with a few gigs in the greater Cincinnati area. --Kinu ^t/_c 12:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

the magnitude of shows is not what makes CATD notable is the impact they have had on the 4th wave, which cincinnati is one for the major cities, for someone who follows ska, they reconize that its a movement underground. wiki users are judging them on the idea that they have never heard of them, but in ska and to ska fans we hear of new bands everyday. --flatf00t3dn1nja 17:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

the ska toolbar is also a HUGE search engine for ska fans, and CATD is a featured band

No, Wikipedia editors are judging this based on WP:RS and WP:MUSIC. Blanket assertions that this band is making an impact on this genre of music, without any sort of third party evidence to that fact, do nothing for the sake of this article. --Kinu ^t/_c 23:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

third party information is hard to find, but i woudl consider airplay,newspaper write-ups,a dn the ska tool bar to be enough --flatf00t3dn1nja 11:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't help. Please read WP:MUSIC. We need more than the local newspaper writeups and local airplay. That simply means that the band is popular locally and there are thousands of bands in that case. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 14:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.