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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:11, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon universe

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While the settings in Pokemon are memorable, I'm not entirely sure this article is necessary. Information from each specific "region" is available in a given article's information (For instance, Kanto is described in depth in the Red and Blue article) and all of the other in universe history is very specific information that isn't really too important to the series' summary. I'm sure there's some discussion on regions individually (Likely lacking for a full article, but still) but the whole fictional universe doesn't seem to be individually distinguishable from a general summary of the series in the main article or the descriptions in individual articles. Don't really think there's a good AtD here, maybe a redirect/light merge to the main series article? I don't know, really. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:48, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - if nothing else, per WP:TNT. This is one giant wikia-grade WP:GAMECRUFT violation. If this is somehow kept, it should be renamed to something like Universe of Pokemon or Setting of Pokemon, as "Pokemon universe" makes it sound like some sort of official name or brand, which it isn't (which is why I don't even really support a merge/redirect to the series article.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:04, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- If you see that it's going to be deleted due to the amount of deletes, you can feel free to salvage the information while you still can. I'm just making a suggestion here. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I could see this being notable, but per WP:TNT it needs a total rewrite. Right now it is very unsuitable for Wikipedia. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: TNT per Sergecross73. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:10, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Redirects for Kanto (Pokémon) and Johto should be retargeted as they target here. Curbon7 (talk) 21:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the heads up. It'd be easy to retarget them to the main article/see also links included in their respective sections. Sergecross73 msg me 21:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I almost !voted keep. But there is no verifiable "Pokemon universe". Each game takes place in a new location. Not a single location is separately notable from the game it appears in. The rest is just WP:SYNTH, and the common elements are already covered at Gameplay of Pokémon. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per User:Shooterwalker, as well as the "Pokémon world sausage" confirming that even the food in the Pokémon universe is retconned and handwaved. QuietCicada - Talk 02:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the few relevant referneced sentences to Pokémon, creating a new section called 'setting' there. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge to it's own section on Pokémon in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you be more specific? Beyond giving zero rationale for keeping, what would you merge, and where? It's all already covered in better quality in other articles. Sergecross73 msg me 03:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - There should be a settings section on that page where the information can be placed. Right? --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:04, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, but I mean, like, what would you merge? It's all unsourced, shallow in-universe observations about the fictional Pokemon locations. Sergecross73 msg me 21:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 * '''Delete''' Per [[User:Shooterwalker]], as well as the "[https://www.polygon.com/pokemon/2019/10/2/20895750/pokemon-sword-shield-sausage Pokémon world sausage]" confirming that even the food in the Pokémon universe is retconned and handwaved. <span style="font-family:Verdana;color:green">[[User:QuietCicada|QuietCicada]] - [[User talk:QuietCicada|Talk]]</span> 02:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * '''Merge''' the few relevant referneced sentences to [[Pokémon]], creating a new section called 'setting' there. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 03:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
-* '''Keep''' or '''merge''' to it's own section on ''[[Pokémon]] in the spirit of [[WP:PRESERVE]]. --[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 18:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
+* '''Keep''' or '''merge''' to it's own section on ''[[Pokémon]]'' in the spirit of [[WP:PRESERVE]]. --[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 18:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
+** Can you be more specific? Beyond giving zero rationale for keeping, what would you merge, and where? It's all already covered in better quality in other articles. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 03:35, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
+*** There should be a settings section on that page where the information can be placed. Right? --[[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 16:04, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
+***:Sure, but I mean, like, what would you merge? It's all unsourced, shallow [[WP:INU|in-universe]] observations about the fictional ''Pokemon'' locations. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 21:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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