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In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [1]
"I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"

The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.

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+*In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
-*Fix issues from GA review:
+* Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of [[Columbia Auditorium]] (now a part of [[Spalding University]] and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
-**It's poorly sourced for it's length, only 16 citations in a article that is about 50 KB in length.
+*Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career.  Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true.  Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
-**There are whole sections that are completely unsourced
+* In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
-**Poor prose thoughout, many grammar errors and one sentence paragraphs.
+* Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkZ6HvH4iI]
-**Merge or remove the Ranking in heavyweight history subsection, unless it could be expanded more than a sentence
+*: "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
-**The Ali in the media section should be converted into prose
+*: The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context [https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/nirtan_alankaras.htm here].
-**The last sentence of in retirement should be moved to the personal life section
+* The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
-**Needs a bit of a trimming his biography section, needs more info about his legacy (which is poorly sourced anyways).
-**Lead needs to be expanded per [[WP:LEAD]]
-**Needs a strong PoV check, parts of the article is written from a fan perpective, sentences like "Cassius Clay indeed "Shook up the world!" as he promised." should be removed.
-*Add "a.k.a. Cassius Clay" to the list of documentaries (1970)
-*Some time should be spent discussing the dirty tactics Ali LOVED to use, such as pushing down on the back of the head and neck to tire his opponent out quicker and his constant grabbing and holding when any serious opponent got on the inside to avoid Ali's jab and provide room to strike him back. Ali would not get away with those same types of tactics in todays boxing world.
-*explain why Ali was stripped of his title in 1964, this is currently mentioned in the list at the end without any reason being given
-*add the final decision of the Supreme Court on Ali's refusing to serve in the military. Several court decisions are mentioned but the final conclusion is missing completely!