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*In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong." |
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*Fix issues from GA review: |
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* Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of [[Columbia Auditorium]] (now a part of [[Spalding University]] and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area). |
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**It's poorly sourced for it's length, only 16 citations in a article that is about 50 KB in length. |
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*Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight. |
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**There are whole sections that are completely unsourced |
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* In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy. |
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**Poor prose throughout, many grammar errors and one sentence paragraphs. |
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* Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkZ6HvH4iI] |
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**<s>Merge or remove the Ranking in heavyweight history subsection, unless it could be expanded more than a sentence</s> (was expanded) |
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*: "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'" |
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**<s>The Ali in the media section should be converted into prose</s> |
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*: The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context [https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/nirtan_alankaras.htm here]. |
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**The last sentence of in retirement should be moved to the personal life section |
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* The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that. |
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**Needs a bit of a trimming his biography section, needs more info about his legacy (which is poorly sourced anyways). |
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**<s>Lead needs to be expanded per [[WP:LEAD]]</s> |
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**Needs a strong PoV check, parts of the article is written from a fan perspective, sentences like "Cassius Clay indeed "Shook up the world!" as he promised." should be removed. |
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*<s>Add "a.k.a. Cassius Clay" to the list of documentaries (1970)</s> |
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*Explain why Ali was stripped of his title in 1964, this is currently mentioned in the list at the end without any reason being given |
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*Add the final decision of the Supreme Court on Ali's refusing to serve in the military. Several court decisions are mentioned but the final conclusion is missing completely! |
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*Properly format all references. |
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*Update Antonio Inoki from being a "kickboxer" to a "catch wrestler" - he was trained by Karl Gotch in shoot style wrestling. |
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*Mention the fact that Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" and "a dumb gorilla," both of which were widely reported in the press at the time. |
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'''NOTATION: People who are experts and/or extremely knowledgeable as to Clay, Ali and aspects of his career and socio-political impact have been consistently run-off and turned away by this page's self-appointed security guard, Steve Macgruder. The pages could benefit from a fresh and receptive view, not a mini-tyrant's private fiefdom. |
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Latest revision as of 06:44, 10 December 2023
- In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
- Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
- Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
- In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
- Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [1]
- "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
- The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
- The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.