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*In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
*Make his reach 80"
* Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of [[Columbia Auditorium]] (now a part of [[Spalding University]] and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
*Change "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong" to "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Congs"
*Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
*Fix issues from GA review:
* In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
**It's poorly sourced for it's length, only 16 citations in a article that is about 50 KB in length.
* Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkZ6HvH4iI]
*Explain why Ali was stripped of his title in 1964, this is currently mentioned in the list at the end without any reason being given
*: "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
*Add the final decision of the Supreme Court on Ali's refusing to serve in the military. Several court decisions are mentioned but the final conclusion is missing completely!
*: The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context [https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/say/nirtan_alankaras.htm here].
*Properly format all references.
* The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.
*Update Antonio Inoki from being a "kickboxer" to a "catch wrestler" - he was trained by Karl Gotch in shoot style wrestling.
*Mention the fact that Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" and "a dumb gorilla," both of which were widely reported in the press at the time.
*Spelling - "In retirement" section - "and met with Saddam Hussein in an attempt to '''negotiate''' the release of American hostages."
*In the lead-up: change "These personality quips and idioms" to "These personality quirks and idiosyncracies."
*In the statistics change "Real Name" to "Birth Name"
*In the beginning it mentions Muhammad Ali's "personality quips and idioms" - this is a misuse of both quip and idiom. I assume the author meant to write Ali's "personality [quirks] and [idiosyncracies]".
*Tomorrow's Champions was hosted by Ed Kallay. I think Martin produced the program. [[User:Older47|Older47]] ([[User talk:Older47|talk]]) 22:28, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
* His last wife is/was Yolanda (Williams)Ali.
* Currently states "Lamar Clark (who had won his previous 40 bouts by knockout)" - but Lamar had been knocked out in two of his previous three bouts before fighting Ali. Source is here: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009367&cat=boxer
* Currently states "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, and more recently to Sufism." Should be changed to "subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, more recently taking particular interest and embracing Sufism." See discussion topic Sufism.

Latest revision as of 06:44, 10 December 2023

  • In the section, "The Nation of Islam and Religious Beliefs," the article states: "...Ali's religious beliefs at the time included the notion that the white man was "the devil" and that white people were not 'righteous.'" While qualifying the belief with the phrase, "at the time" implies that Ali may not hold such a belief in the present day, it does not follow up by verifying how Ali's belief on the matter actually did change. In 2002, David Frost interviewed Ali and asked him whether he still believed all whites were devils, as he had once proclaimed. Ali replied that it had been Elijah Muhammad who taught him that view and that he, Muhammad Ali, now sees the view as "wrong."
  • Cover more about where Ali initially trained -- the Columbia Gym which was in the basement of Columbia Auditorium (now a part of Spalding University and is a key building in a NRHP multiple resources area).
  • Someone needs to look at the the Economist article that states Ali took over 200,000 hits in his career. Assuming it just refers to his professional career, that would work out to over 3,000 hits per fight, a simply ludicrous number that can't possibly be true. Even if he took 1/10th that many hits, it would still be a huge number for a heavyweight.
  • In the section about his early life it states he had a sister and four brothers. I only know of his brother Rudolph. If he did have other siblings, we need more information on them, However I do not believe he had any other siblings besides his brother Rudy.
  • Plagiarism: Ali recited a poem and claimed to have written it himself: [1]
    "I just wrote a poem the other day entitled 'Truth.'"
    The words he delivered so beautifully are from a teacher of Universal Sufism, named Hazrat Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan. They appear in his collected "Sayings" in "Nirtan: Dance / Alankaras: The fanciful expression of an idea." You can find it in context here.
  • The more I research Ali, the more it occurs to me that he saw himself as an ambassador for his hometown of Louisville. We should find a way to fit in coverage of that.