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== God-botherer ==
What the heck is a "god-botherer"? [[user:Ortolan88|Ortolan88]]


:It's a British Englishism (used in Oz as well) describing somebody actively and publically involved in Christianity, including church hierachy but also particularly active lay Christians. It implies a fairly common attitude in Australia (and presumably in GB) that God, if he exists, has better things to do than pay attention to the histrionics of some of his followers and that a better use for their time would be living their own lives in accordance with his teachings and let other people get on with theirs. It's generally regarded as derogatory (but some people fitting the description have reclaimed the term in the same ways that other marginalized groups have done), so I'm going to remove it unless he self-describes specifically as one. --[[user:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]]
:It's a British Englishism (used in Oz as well) describing somebody actively and publically involved in Christianity, including church hierachy but also particularly active lay Christians. It implies a fairly common attitude in Australia (and presumably in GB) that God, if he exists, has better things to do than pay attention to the histrionics of some of his followers and that a better use for their time would be living their own lives in accordance with his teachings and let other people get on with theirs. It's generally regarded as derogatory (but some people fitting the description have reclaimed the term in the same ways that other marginalized groups have done), so I'm going to remove it unless he self-describes specifically as one. --[[user:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]]
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Wikipedia article also include Trivia. Reeves was one of the most popualr comics in the [[1990s]] and therefore it is a noteable piece of Triva! [[User:205.188.116.197|205.188.116.197]] 19:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia article also include Trivia. Reeves was one of the most popualr comics in the [[1990s]] and therefore it is a noteable piece of Triva! [[User:205.188.116.197|205.188.116.197]] 19:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

==smas.me.uk?==
The link to the Spike Milligan Appreciation Society currently takes people to a site on the future of rail... Can anyone find the current link, or is this all part of the joke? Bob aka [[User:Linuxlad|Linuxlad]] 19:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

== Book/books? ==

What's the Wikipedia convention on book listings? An entertaining life is the omnibus of "Strawberries & Cheam" and "Arias And Raspberries" plus new material, but does that mean that the two separate volumes don't get mentioned? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Loathsomeleopard|Loathsomeleopard]] ([[User talk:Loathsomeleopard|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Loathsomeleopard|contribs]]) 09:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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==A seriously bizarre sentence==
''In 1958 he appeared in the film [[Jet Storm]], which starred Dame Sybil Thorndike and Sir Richard Attenborough in the title role of Davy - the last feature film made at Ealing Studios.[5]''

: Do you see the problems?
:* (a) There's no character in that film called Davy.
:* (b) Even if there were, Davy could not possibly be the "title role" in a movie called "Jet Storm".
:* (c) It reads as if both Thorndike and Attenborough played this non-existent "title role", which would be an impossibility - and which has nothing to do with Secombe anyway. -- [[User:JackofOz|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;">'' ... speak! ... ''</span>]] 04:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

:To be fair to the original editor, the source article was vague as it did not italic the film Davy. Corrected [[User:FruitMonkey|FruitMonkey]] ([[User talk:FruitMonkey|talk]]) 09:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Anyone seen a gun? ==

I have removed a paragraph which had no citations. It concerned Secombe's meeting with Spike, but there are many versions including Spike sticking his head out of a tent, a truck, or walking down to meet him. The only thing they have in common is that Spike asks "has anyone seen a gun?" I suspect this is a myth, feel free to correct me, but in at least one book I have about Spike, it says that they met a lot later on, when Secombe was doing a sketch or something, and Spike I think was convalescing. [[User:0o0o0ok|0o0o0ok]] ([[User talk:0o0o0ok|talk]]) 17:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== St. Patrick's day?? ==

A note here about him opening the bar at the London Welsh Centre on St Patrick's Day (17 March) 1971. (The reference to the Centre's web site, incidentally, currently has no mention of this event) – but surely it would in any case have taken place on [[Saint David's Day]] rather than [[Saint Patrick's Day|Saint Patrick's]]? --[[User:Soundofmusicals|Soundofmusicals]] ([[User talk:Soundofmusicals|talk]]) 08:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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== Welsh-born? ==
I’m wondering why he is referred to as Welsh-born rather than Welsh. I don’t know of any reasons his nationality would be anything but Welsh. My understanding is changing his nationality to Welsh-born from Welsh has been done by one user, and changed back again when this was revised by another user. I’ve changed it back to Welsh as I don’t see any reason for it to be otherwise. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Humbledaisy|Humbledaisy]] ([[User talk:Humbledaisy#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Humbledaisy|contribs]]) 21:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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God-botherer

What the heck is a "god-botherer"? Ortolan88

It's a British Englishism (used in Oz as well) describing somebody actively and publically involved in Christianity, including church hierachy but also particularly active lay Christians. It implies a fairly common attitude in Australia (and presumably in GB) that God, if he exists, has better things to do than pay attention to the histrionics of some of his followers and that a better use for their time would be living their own lives in accordance with his teachings and let other people get on with theirs. It's generally regarded as derogatory (but some people fitting the description have reclaimed the term in the same ways that other marginalized groups have done), so I'm going to remove it unless he self-describes specifically as one. --Robert Merkel

Thanks. I'm pretty sure Neddy was a good man.Ortolan88

Vic Reeves reference

Is it really necessary to have Vic Reeves "pie and peas" reference in here? I notice that the same contributer has put it in twice now, but it's not really relevant to Harrys life or career. If everyone is agreeable I will remove it--Crais459 12:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article also include Trivia. Reeves was one of the most popualr comics in the 1990s and therefore it is a noteable piece of Triva! 205.188.116.197 19:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

smas.me.uk?

The link to the Spike Milligan Appreciation Society currently takes people to a site on the future of rail... Can anyone find the current link, or is this all part of the joke? Bob aka Linuxlad 19:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Book/books?

What's the Wikipedia convention on book listings? An entertaining life is the omnibus of "Strawberries & Cheam" and "Arias And Raspberries" plus new material, but does that mean that the two separate volumes don't get mentioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loathsomeleopard (talkcontribs) 09:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A seriously bizarre sentence

In 1958 he appeared in the film Jet Storm, which starred Dame Sybil Thorndike and Sir Richard Attenborough in the title role of Davy - the last feature film made at Ealing Studios.[5]

Do you see the problems?
  • (a) There's no character in that film called Davy.
  • (b) Even if there were, Davy could not possibly be the "title role" in a movie called "Jet Storm".
  • (c) It reads as if both Thorndike and Attenborough played this non-existent "title role", which would be an impossibility - and which has nothing to do with Secombe anyway. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 04:19, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair to the original editor, the source article was vague as it did not italic the film Davy. Corrected FruitMonkey (talk) 09:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone seen a gun?

I have removed a paragraph which had no citations. It concerned Secombe's meeting with Spike, but there are many versions including Spike sticking his head out of a tent, a truck, or walking down to meet him. The only thing they have in common is that Spike asks "has anyone seen a gun?" I suspect this is a myth, feel free to correct me, but in at least one book I have about Spike, it says that they met a lot later on, when Secombe was doing a sketch or something, and Spike I think was convalescing. 0o0o0ok (talk) 17:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St. Patrick's day??

A note here about him opening the bar at the London Welsh Centre on St Patrick's Day (17 March) 1971. (The reference to the Centre's web site, incidentally, currently has no mention of this event) – but surely it would in any case have taken place on Saint David's Day rather than Saint Patrick's? --Soundofmusicals (talk) 08:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Welsh-born?

I’m wondering why he is referred to as Welsh-born rather than Welsh. I don’t know of any reasons his nationality would be anything but Welsh. My understanding is changing his nationality to Welsh-born from Welsh has been done by one user, and changed back again when this was revised by another user. I’ve changed it back to Welsh as I don’t see any reason for it to be otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humbledaisy (talkcontribs) 21:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]