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{{Old move |date=December 13, 2017 |from=Theater of the United States |destination=Theatre in the United States |result=moved '''to''' [[Theater in the United States]] |link=Talk:Theater in the United States#Requested move 13 December 2017}}
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== Title of this article ==

Shouldn't this article be titled "'''Theatre in the United States'''"?<br />In keeping with US tradition, the spelling ''theatre'' is used for the art and profession, of which this article is about, whilst the spelling ''theater'' is used for the actual structure that a performance is held in; ie, ''theatre is usually performed in a theater''. Also this article is about theatre '''in''' the United States ''not'' '''of''' the United States. --[[Special:Contributions/121.220.51.162|121.220.51.162]] ([[User talk:121.220.51.162|talk]]) 10:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
== Requested move 13 December 2017 ==
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:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[WP:requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]]. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the move request was: '''[[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Three possible outcomes|moved]]''' to '''[[Theater in the United States]]'''. See clear consensus to 1) rename this article, and 2) use "in" rather than "of". There is also fairly strong support for "theater" instead of "theatre". Happy New Year to All''!'' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Page mover closure|closed by page mover]])</small> &nbsp;'''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:85%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">Paine&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''<small>&nbsp;&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r&nbsp;there</sup>]]&nbsp;</small> 16:52, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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[[:Theater of the United States]] → {{no redirect|Theatre in the United States}} – as stated above by [[Special:Contributions/121.220.51.162|121.220.51.162]] in 2014 – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 17:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC) <small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Crow|<span style="color:black;">'''Crow'''</span>]][[User talk:Crow|<span style="color:black;"><sup><small>''Caw''</small></sup></span>]] 22:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #2F4F4F;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:55, 28 December 2017 (UTC)</small>
*'''Support''' - Per the precedent of [[theatre]] article title. Also, "theater of the United States" makes me think "theater of war" rather than the performing arts.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 03:28, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''Move''' back to original title [[Theater in the United States]]. Should never have been moved. Per [[WP:ENGVAR]], "theater" is the usual American spelling. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 02:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''Only support [[Theater in the United States]]''' per [[WP:ENGVAR]] [[User:Red Slash|<span style="color:#FF4131;">Red </span>]][[User talk:Red Slash|<b style="color:#460121;">Slash</b>]] 09:35, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per [[WP:CONSISTENCY]] with other articles, however, move to ''theater'' as that is the American spelling. '''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:CookieMonster755|<span style="color:crimson;">CookieMonster755</span>]] <small>[[User talk:CookieMonster755|<span style="color:purple;">𝚨-𝛀</span>]]</small></span>''' 04:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''American English spelling is 'Theater'''' [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 00:35, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''Support''': Plenty of Americans use "theatre". I was taught to use it when I was a theatre graduate-student in the US. But if we need a good outside arbiter, let's look at which spelling the NYC theatre critics. [[User:Aristophanes68|<b style="color: magenta;">Aristophanes</b><b style="color: teal;">68</b>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<i style="color: teal;">(talk)</i>]] 08:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
::Plus, the articles on Broadway, Off-Broadway, and Off-Off-Broadway use -re. [[User:Aristophanes68|<b style="color: magenta;">Aristophanes</b><b style="color: teal;">68</b>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<i style="color: teal;">(talk)</i>]] 08:36, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
*'''American English spelling is 'Theater'''' - no reason to change original title. "Theater" is used by [https://www.nytimes.com/section/theater The New York Times] and others. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]]<sup>[[User talk:Neutrality|talk]]</sup> 08:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
* '''Oppose both changes'''.
: Keep "of" to maintain consistency with [[Theatre of ancient Greece]] and [[Theatre of the United Kingdom]]. The proposal misreads the nuance of this topic, which I find hard to explain at the moment.
: Keep "theater". This is a [[WP:ENGVAR]] issue, in the absence of compelling reason to change, stick with [[WP:RETAIN]], noting "theater" was the title in the first non-stub version[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Theater_of_the_United_States&oldid=10712754]. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 05:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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==Appalling lead==
"'''[[Theatre|Theater]] of the United States''' is based in the [[Western world|Western]] tradition. [[Regional theater in the United States|Regional or resident theaters]] in the United States are professional theater companies outside New York City that produce their own seasons."

Really? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 06:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

: I rewrote it; how does it read now? Any suggestions for what else to add? [[User:Aristophanes68|<b style="color: magenta;">Aristophanes</b><b style="color: teal;">68</b>]] [[User talk:Aristophanes68|<i style="color: teal;">(talk)</i>]] 08:24, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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