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[[Media:Example.ogg]]This article should probably be split into two different articles, one covering the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range, and one covering the Lesser Caucasus Mountains. It will be easier to classify and describe the two different mountain systems this way (which are considerably different from each other geomorphologically). In addition, the map of the caucasus mountains which is used on this page only highlights the Greater Caucasus Range and not the Lesser Caucasus. [[User:D.Papuashvili|D.Papuashvili]] 07:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
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==Pushkin==
The name should be ''Pushkin-'''Tau'''''. Source: I lived there, this is how we used to call it. --[[User:David tm|David tm]] ([[User talk:David tm|talk]]) 16:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

==Comment==
This article should probably be split into two different articles, one covering the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range, and one covering the Lesser Caucasus Mountains. It will be easier to classify and describe the two different mountain systems this way (which are considerably different from each other geomorphologically). In addition, the map of the caucasus mountains which is used on this page only highlights the Greater Caucasus Range and not the Lesser Caucasus. [[User:D.Papuashvili|D.Papuashvili]] 07:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
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Some time ago I started small [[Greater Caucasus]] and [[Lesser Caucasus]] articles. Please feel free to update them. The common article makes sense as well, as a summary for the whole territory. [[user:mikkalai|mikka]] [[user talk:mikkalai|(t)]] 18:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Some time ago I started small [[Greater Caucasus]] and [[Lesser Caucasus]] articles. Please feel free to update them. The common article makes sense as well, as a summary for the whole territory. [[user:mikkalai|mikka]] [[user talk:mikkalai|(t)]] 18:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
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==Highest point in Europe==
==Highest point in Europe==
I reverted changes by someone ([[Special:Contributions/84.222.81.155|84.222.81.155]]) who removed references to Mount Elbrus being the highest in Europe, but perhaps something should be added to this page that explains why some people don't believe the Caucasus Mountains to be part of Europe. - {{country|flagicon|Scotland|size={{{size|}}}}} [[User:Calum Hutchinson| <span style="color:#0065BD">'''calum'''</span>]] 13:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
I reverted changes by someone ([[Special:Contributions/84.222.81.155|84.222.81.155]]) who removed references to Mount Elbrus being the highest in Europe, but perhaps something should be added to this page that explains why some people don't believe the Caucasus Mountains to be part of Europe. - [[User:Calum Hutchinson| <span style="color:#0065BD">'''calum'''</span>]] 13:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

There is a well written explanation to this problem on the German page to this topic. Basically there are two different views on where the border between Europe and Asia is. Some say it is north of the Caucasus Mountains and some say it goes right trough. Depending on this the highest mountain in Europe is either Mont Blanc or Elbrus. I will try to translate and fit it into this article. --[[User:84.143.84.223|84.143.84.223]] 18:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== General Map of the area ==
I believe there should be a general map of the area, showing its physical location, etc.

== Name ==
Caucasus Mountains sounds a little weird? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Atabata|Atabata]] ([[User talk:Atabata|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Atabata|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:How so? —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] 20:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Because Caucasus is a noun? That's like saying "Europe Mountains" or "Americas Mountains" (note that both are incorrect). Maybe it was meant to be "Caucasus' Mountains" (corresponding to "Europe's Mountains" and "Americas' Mountains")? In any case the current form is incorrect. Looking at similar articles ([[Carpathian Mountains]], [[Cantabrian Mountains]], [[Cambrian Mountains]], [[Scandinavian Mountains]], etc.) I propose calling this article [[Caucasian Mountains]]. [[User:Atabata|Atabata]] 00:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

:My sources (atlases, encyclopedias, mountaineering guidebooks, the American Alpine Journal), attest the usages "Caucasus Mountains", "Caucasus Range", or simply "Caucasus", but never "Caucasian Mountains". Also, noun range names are actually relatively common; it does not have to be "(adjective) Mountains". E.g. in the U.S., [[Cascade Range]], [[Alaska Range]], [[Sandia Mountains]] (Sandia is a noun meaning "Watermelon"), [[Big Horn Mountains]], .... So there is no reason to change; the current form is correct.{{spaced ndash}}[[User:Spireguy|Spireguy]] 03:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Modified the geology section. Previously said that the Caucasus were an extension of the Himalaya (!?), which is true only if all mountains on the southern edge of Eurasia are considered an extension of the Himalaya. The previous text also mentioned that there were no volcanoes except for Elbrus, etc, which was confusing. Stated that the lack of volcanoes was because of tectonic movement in Anatolia/Iran. First, this is speculation; second, volcanoes do exist in the Greater Caucasus so it is speculation based on a false premise. So I removed it. Finally, it mentioned something about the Lesser Caucaus being very "unstable" - not sure what that means. Also revised statement about petroleum, granite, and gneiss reserves. Granite and gneiss are not generally considered worthy of being deemed reserves except in the case of limited ornamental granites and shortened petroleum and natural gas to hydrocarbons. Eliminated stated figure of 200 billion as not sure where is comes from and and any rate, that estimate must surely include the South Caspian as, as far as I know, the reserves in the Caucasus themselves are limited. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/146.244.227.112|146.244.227.112]] ([[User talk:146.244.227.112|talk]]) 00:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Assessment comment==
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== Merge [[Lesser Caucasus]] with [[Anticaucasus]] discussion ==


I have started a discussion at [[Talk:Lesser Caucasus#Merge with Anticaucasus]] about merging these two articles, and possibly merge both of those into [[Caucasus Mountains]]. I gather that the name is somewhat of a politically sensitive topic, so I'm looking for uninvolved experts to join the discussion and provide insight. -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 18:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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Pushkin

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The name should be Pushkin-Tau. Source: I lived there, this is how we used to call it. --David tm (talk) 16:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

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This article should probably be split into two different articles, one covering the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range, and one covering the Lesser Caucasus Mountains. It will be easier to classify and describe the two different mountain systems this way (which are considerably different from each other geomorphologically). In addition, the map of the caucasus mountains which is used on this page only highlights the Greater Caucasus Range and not the Lesser Caucasus. D.Papuashvili 07:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Some time ago I started small Greater Caucasus and Lesser Caucasus articles. Please feel free to update them. The common article makes sense as well, as a summary for the whole territory. mikka (t) 18:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi mikka. Your suggestions sound good to me. I looked at the pages for the two different mountain ranges and maybe we can start adding the additional information to those pages also. D.Papuashvili 18:12, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Highest point in Europe

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I reverted changes by someone (84.222.81.155) who removed references to Mount Elbrus being the highest in Europe, but perhaps something should be added to this page that explains why some people don't believe the Caucasus Mountains to be part of Europe. - calum 13:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a well written explanation to this problem on the German page to this topic. Basically there are two different views on where the border between Europe and Asia is. Some say it is north of the Caucasus Mountains and some say it goes right trough. Depending on this the highest mountain in Europe is either Mont Blanc or Elbrus. I will try to translate and fit it into this article. --84.143.84.223 18:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

General Map of the area

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I believe there should be a general map of the area, showing its physical location, etc.

Name

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Caucasus Mountains sounds a little weird? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Atabata (talkcontribs) .

How so? —Keenan Pepper 20:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because Caucasus is a noun? That's like saying "Europe Mountains" or "Americas Mountains" (note that both are incorrect). Maybe it was meant to be "Caucasus' Mountains" (corresponding to "Europe's Mountains" and "Americas' Mountains")? In any case the current form is incorrect. Looking at similar articles (Carpathian Mountains, Cantabrian Mountains, Cambrian Mountains, Scandinavian Mountains, etc.) I propose calling this article Caucasian Mountains. Atabata 00:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My sources (atlases, encyclopedias, mountaineering guidebooks, the American Alpine Journal), attest the usages "Caucasus Mountains", "Caucasus Range", or simply "Caucasus", but never "Caucasian Mountains". Also, noun range names are actually relatively common; it does not have to be "(adjective) Mountains". E.g. in the U.S., Cascade Range, Alaska Range, Sandia Mountains (Sandia is a noun meaning "Watermelon"), Big Horn Mountains, .... So there is no reason to change; the current form is correct. – Spireguy 03:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Modified the geology section. Previously said that the Caucasus were an extension of the Himalaya (!?), which is true only if all mountains on the southern edge of Eurasia are considered an extension of the Himalaya. The previous text also mentioned that there were no volcanoes except for Elbrus, etc, which was confusing. Stated that the lack of volcanoes was because of tectonic movement in Anatolia/Iran. First, this is speculation; second, volcanoes do exist in the Greater Caucasus so it is speculation based on a false premise. So I removed it. Finally, it mentioned something about the Lesser Caucaus being very "unstable" - not sure what that means. Also revised statement about petroleum, granite, and gneiss reserves. Granite and gneiss are not generally considered worthy of being deemed reserves except in the case of limited ornamental granites and shortened petroleum and natural gas to hydrocarbons. Eliminated stated figure of 200 billion as not sure where is comes from and and any rate, that estimate must surely include the South Caspian as, as far as I know, the reserves in the Caucasus themselves are limited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.244.227.112 (talk) 00:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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Cannot be given C class as there are no references or sources. RedWolf (talk) 16:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge Lesser Caucasus with Anticaucasus discussion

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I have started a discussion at Talk:Lesser Caucasus#Merge with Anticaucasus about merging these two articles, and possibly merge both of those into Caucasus Mountains. I gather that the name is somewhat of a politically sensitive topic, so I'm looking for uninvolved experts to join the discussion and provide insight. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]