Talk:Rudolf Bing: Difference between revisions
Robert K S (talk | contribs) Rudolf or Rudolph? |
m Maintain {{WPBS}} and vital articles: 4 WikiProject templates. Merge {{VA}} into {{WPBS}}. Keep majority rating "Start" in {{WPBS}}. Remove 4 same ratings as {{WPBS}} in {{WikiProject Biography}}, {{WikiProject Austria}}, {{WikiProject New York City}}, {{WikiProject Opera}}. |
||
(30 intermediate revisions by 21 users not shown) | |||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
{{WikiProject banner shell |living=no |class=Start|vital=yes|listas=Bing, Rudolph|1= |
|||
{{WikiProject Biography}} |
|||
{{WikiProject Austria |importance=Low}} |
|||
{{WikiProject New York City |importance=Low}} |
|||
{{WikiProject Opera }} |
|||
}} |
|||
==Fired Callas?== |
|||
Is Bing not also Known as the man that fired Maria Callas? |
|||
:You are right (although your comment is unsigned), readers will be looking for this so I added a couple of sentences. Any more would be out of proportion in such a short article. Cheers, [[User:Markhh|Markhh]] ([[User talk:Markhh|talk]]) 23:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC) |
|||
==African-Americans== |
|||
''During his long and triumphant tenure, he opened the house to African-Americans, with Marian Anderson and Leontyne Price as the most prominent examples.'' |
''During his long and triumphant tenure, he opened the house to African-Americans, with Marian Anderson and Leontyne Price as the most prominent examples.'' |
||
:*To say that Bing "opened the house to African-Americans" is to imply that a closed-house policy had been in place and that Bing changed that policy. Is that, in fact, the case? |
:*To say that Bing "opened the house to African-Americans" is to imply that a closed-house policy had been in place and that Bing changed that policy. Is that, in fact, the case? |
||
Line 9: | Line 20: | ||
== Rudolf or Rudolph? == |
== Rudolf or Rudolph? == |
||
Is there any sourcing for the ph spelling of his name? [[User:Robert K S|Robert K S]] 09:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
Is there any sourcing for the ph spelling of his name? [[User:Robert K S|Robert K S]] 09:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC) |
||
No, it's just an error. I have asked for admin assistance to fix the redirect, which I think I messed up. -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] 18:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC) |
|||
:I moved the article from [[Rudolf Franz Joseph Bing]] to [[Rudolf Bing]], which seems to be the better title, but was previously covered with a redirect. -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 22:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC) |
|||
::Thanks to all concerned. So much better to have these things right. [[User:Tim riley|Tim riley]] 00:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC) |
|||
Yes, it's good to have things right, so let's find out what's right. The Encyclopedia Britannica has it with a "ph" [http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9079227/Sir-Rudolph-Bing]. Stamping out the "ph" everywhere should occur after ascertaining the correct spelling, not before. The WP article should at the very least mention that "Rudolph" is frequently used, whether or not that was what was on his birth certificate. [[User:Chris the speller|Chris the speller]] 19:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC) |
|||
: I can't see why. We don't say in [[Adolf Hitler]]'s article that many people erroneously spell his first name "Adolph". Bing certainly never spelt his own name "Rudolph", and if others did so, they did so in pure ignorance. We deal in facts here, not ignorance. -- [[User:JackofOz|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span>]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;"><sup>[your turn]</sup></span>]] 19:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC) |
|||
==Fair use rationale for Image:R Bing.jpg== |
|||
[[Image:Nuvola apps important.svg|70px|left]] |
|||
'''[[:Image:R Bing.jpg]]''' is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]] but there is no [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline|explanation or rationale]] as to why its use in '''this''' Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Fair use|boilerplate fair use template]], you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with [[WP:FU|fair use]]. |
|||
Please go to [[:Image:R Bing.jpg|the image description page]] and edit it to include a [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline |fair use rationale]]. Using one of the templates at [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline]] is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page. |
|||
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia|criteria for speedy deletion]]. If you have any questions please ask them at the [[Wikipedia:Media copyright questions|Media copyright questions page]]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Missing rationale2 -->[[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] 03:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
|||
== Bing's family was not Jewish == |
|||
His father was Catholic, his mother was born Catholic. He was born Catholic and baptized Catholic. The name of Bing's grandfather was Benedikt Bing (a "Jewish" name if there ever was one) and he was a member of the k.u.k. military. What else does somebody have to do to not be referred to as being a member "of a Jewish family"?--[[User:Suessmayr~enwiki|Suessmayr~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Suessmayr~enwiki|talk]]) 19:55, 2 April 2017 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 12:32, 11 January 2024
This level-5 vital article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Fired Callas?
[edit]Is Bing not also Known as the man that fired Maria Callas?
- You are right (although your comment is unsigned), readers will be looking for this so I added a couple of sentences. Any more would be out of proportion in such a short article. Cheers, Markhh (talk) 23:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
African-Americans
[edit]During his long and triumphant tenure, he opened the house to African-Americans, with Marian Anderson and Leontyne Price as the most prominent examples.
- To say that Bing "opened the house to African-Americans" is to imply that a closed-house policy had been in place and that Bing changed that policy. Is that, in fact, the case?
- Is a house opened from within or from without? Some might argue that Marian Anderson is the one who "opened the house to African-Americans."
- The house can be "opened" only once; the house wasn't "re-opened" for Leontyne Price.
- Hence, my edit: During his long and triumphant career, Marian Anderson became, on January 7, 1955, the first African American to sing at the house.
ForDorothy 20:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Agree with your statements above. Nothing wrong with your addition except the ghastly grammar. I've cleaned it up and moved it to a better place. Vivaverdi 00:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Rudolf or Rudolph?
[edit]Is there any sourcing for the ph spelling of his name? Robert K S 09:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
No, it's just an error. I have asked for admin assistance to fix the redirect, which I think I messed up. -- Ssilvers 18:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- I moved the article from Rudolf Franz Joseph Bing to Rudolf Bing, which seems to be the better title, but was previously covered with a redirect. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks to all concerned. So much better to have these things right. Tim riley 00:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it's good to have things right, so let's find out what's right. The Encyclopedia Britannica has it with a "ph" [1]. Stamping out the "ph" everywhere should occur after ascertaining the correct spelling, not before. The WP article should at the very least mention that "Rudolph" is frequently used, whether or not that was what was on his birth certificate. Chris the speller 19:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
- I can't see why. We don't say in Adolf Hitler's article that many people erroneously spell his first name "Adolph". Bing certainly never spelt his own name "Rudolph", and if others did so, they did so in pure ignorance. We deal in facts here, not ignorance. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 19:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:R Bing.jpg
[edit]Image:R Bing.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 03:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Bing's family was not Jewish
[edit]His father was Catholic, his mother was born Catholic. He was born Catholic and baptized Catholic. The name of Bing's grandfather was Benedikt Bing (a "Jewish" name if there ever was one) and he was a member of the k.u.k. military. What else does somebody have to do to not be referred to as being a member "of a Jewish family"?--Suessmayr~enwiki (talk) 19:55, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Start-Class level-5 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in People
- Start-Class vital articles in People
- Start-Class biography articles
- WikiProject Biography articles
- Start-Class Austria articles
- Low-importance Austria articles
- All WikiProject Austria pages
- Start-Class New York City articles
- Low-importance New York City articles
- WikiProject New York City articles
- Start-Class Opera articles
- WikiProject Opera articles