Talk:Cocktail dress

Image

The old image Image:PromDress.JPG was only a Prom dress - not a classical Cocktail dress like Image:Cocktail dress 22209831.jpg. I've exchanged the images --Herrick 13:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops, should've read this before reverting. Still, there ought to be an even better picture out there.... -- Smjg 23:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I see problems with both images - the prom one is a poor pose and the dres isn't so good. the cocktail dress image can barely be seen. I took a look on Commons and flickr and came up with a few alternatives we could consider:

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• File:Bluedress.jpg

and a cc-by-sa 2.5 image on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/iluvrhinestones/297039837/

My personal favorite is the first. -- SiobhanHansa 15:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Gosh. Inspite the fact that the first picture Image:Helen Sjöholm.jpg is a "nice" dress, it only shows a typically dress from 1950! It misses the classic strong line. --Herrick 08:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement about men's attire

The statement that men may wear a dark suit to a semi-formal event is incorrect and should be removed. See Semi formal. In addition, it's off-topic in this article. Toddst1 (talk) 17:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

web site

Hi Leila, My apologies for the second undo, but I've removed the material you added from your website. While I can see you're trying to constructively contribute and you've solved the copyright problems, that material fails Wikipedia:Verifiability as WP:SPS. Bluntly, just because you published it on your website, doesn't make it true. Beyond that, the material is more of a style guide which we don't do per WP:HOWTO. While many folks think that type of info would be useful on Wikipedia, we have made a decision not to include that type of material. I hope this helps. Toddst1 (talk) 17:43, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Toddst1, thanks for your notes. I'm still thinking about expanding of this article. This time I divided to consult with you first. I'm thinking about leaving History section with a reference to "da Cruz, Elyssa. "Dressing for the Cocktail Hour". In Heilbrunn Timeline of Art History. New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2000". As for rest of my content, I'm thinking about External Links section. Is such modification acceptable? WBR Leila Lynch 21:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. Let me know if you need help with the Wikipedia:Citation templates. Good luck. Toddst1 (talk) 21:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I removed the History section, as it was copied verbatim from the web site. See wp:copyvio. Rees11 (talk) 16:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I see now that this material was removed once before and restored with a claim that it had been licensed for use here. But I don't see that on the source web page. Rees11 (talk) 21:18, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Ress11, for notice. I'm restoring material, since CC-BY-SA notice was restored (it was forgotten during site-migration) Leila Lynch 20:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeilaLynch (talk • contribs)

You can't just include the material here. The license requires attribution at the very least. I would also request that you get consensus here on the talk page before adding this material, per wp:coi. Rees11 (talk) 20:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Bibliography

1. Da Cruz, Elyssa Schram. "Cocktail Dress." The Berg Companion to Fashion. Ed. Valerie Steele. Oxford: Bloomsbury Academic, 2010. Bloomsbury Fashion Central. Web. 31 Oct. 2017. https://www.bloomsburyfashioncentral.com/products/berg-fashion-library/encyclopedia/the-berg-companion-to-fashion/cocktail-dress.
2. Arnold Rebecca. Fashion, Desire, and Anxiety: Image and Morality in the Twentieth Century. New Brunswick, N.J.: Rutgers University Press, 2001.
3. Kirkham Pat. Women Designers in the USA 1900–2000. New York: Yale University Press, 2000.
4. Milbank Rennolds. New York Fashion: The Evolution of American Style. New York: Harry N. Abrams, 1989.
5. Seeling Charlotte. Fashion: The Century of the Designer, 1900–1999. Cologne, Germany: Konemann, 1999.
6. Steele Valerie. Paris Fashion: A Cultural History. New York: Oxford University Press, 1988.
7. Dirix, Emmanuelle. Dressing the decades: twentieth-Century Vintage style. Yale, 2016.

Joannnnna (talk) 11:38, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

References

Merge?

Shouldn't Party dress merge into Cocktail dress? PPEMES (talk) 11:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Merging makes no sense to me. Toddst1 (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

How do the scopes distinctively differ? PPEMES (talk) 23:19, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

"Party dress" includes for children's and teen's dresses, but "cocktail dress" really doesn't. - PKM (talk) 04:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Comment - I agree with PKM. A party dress is more for children and teens and all-ages events, a cocktail dress is something very specifically adult/grown-up. It's the difference between a pink fondant fancy and a posh dark chocolate souffle. Mabalu (talk) 04:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

To clarify - I hadn't realised until I looked at it what a really scrappy little article "party dress" is. I propose that it should be merged instead into Dress. Mabalu (talk) 04:29, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. (to Dress) Klbrain (talk) 09:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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