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==Merge==
==Merge==
I propose to merge [[Mula Sangha]] and [[Kashtha Sangha]] into this article, since both do not exist now. Merging them would help enhance all the three topics since there is not enough sourced content on the two. -- Pankaj Jain ''[[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] <span class="plainlinks">([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/Capankajsmilyo|contribs]] '''·''' [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])</span>'' 06:53, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
[[Digambara Terapanth]] should be merged into this article due to lack of sourced content. [[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] ([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]]) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': there are sufficient references to support independent notability. [[User:Klbrain|Klbrain]] ([[User talk:Klbrain|talk]]) 19:45, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

<b>No. Please don't merge. </b>
1. [[Mula Sangha]] and [[Kashtha Sangha]] are not sects, but orders.
2. [[Mula Sangha]] still exists. All Jain munis/kshullakas belong to Mula Sangh (except those belonging to Ganini Gyanmatiji's order, since the Agrawals were historically associated with Kashtha Sangh). The temples belonging to [[Kashtha Sangha]] still exist.
[[User:Malaiya|Malaiya]] ([[User talk:Malaiya|talk]]) 01:47, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

===Digambara Terapanth===
I further propose to merge [[Digambara Terapanth]] into this article and leave a redirect, as there is not enough content to qualify a separate article. [[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] ([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]]) 10:13, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Digambara Terapanth is no longer practiced sect. All the followers have migrated to Bisapanthi or "Pure Terapanthi" ( also named as "Kanji Panthi"). So, reference should be altogether removed and replaced with "Pure Terapanthi" sect, as this section supposedly should only mention "live sects". [[User:Realphi|Realphi]] ([[User talk:Realphi|talk]]) 16:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

: I’m amazed with your flawed understanding of the Jain community. Today, you’re saying Kanji Panth is pure terapanth, tomorrow you’ll say it is pure Jainism. Kanji panth is practiced by few people. It can nowhere be compared with Digambar Terapanth which still has a very large following. On thousands of Jain temples across India you’ll find the name ''Digambar Terapanth'' written on the board. I have seen hundreds of temples belonging to Digambar Terapanth sect but only one belonging to [[Kanji Panth]] sect till now. -[[User:जैन|Nimit]] ([[User talk:जैन|talk]]) 03:50, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Please do not merge. It is definitely not true: "Digambara Terapanth is no longer practiced sect". Digambara Terapanth is now the mainstream Digambar tradition. Most Digambaras are not strict followers of a panth, however Terapanth rules are now specifically prescribed at many temples.[[User:Malaiya|Malaiya]] ([[User talk:Malaiya|talk]]) 16:23, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

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== Proposed merge of [[Kanji Panth]] into this article ==

Very little independently sourced unique content. Sourcing in general quite weak. Could probably be merged into a paragraph or so here once all the unnecessary, unsourced content is trimmed. Doesn't seem enough for standalone article. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#004d80;"> [[User talk:Begoon|Begoon]]</span> 14:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


== non-monks? ==
* '''Support''' per above [[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] ([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]]) 15:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
* I think it should be merged into [[Jain schools and branches]]. [[Kanji Swami]], the founder of [[Kanji Panth]] was a [[Sthānakavāsī]] ascetic and unlike Digambara ascetics didn’t abandon any possessions till very last. I had once stumbled upon a booklet in which the members of the Digambara sect had clearly mentioned that ''Kanji Panth'' is wrongly associated with Digambara sect and beliefs of people belonging to ''Kanji Panth'' are in direct contradiction of what is written in their scriptures.–[[User:जैन|Nimit]] ([[User talk:जैन|talk]]) 10:35, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


This article seems to be all about monks. What about the average person who belongs to this path? Do they wear clothes? What about at home? Do they have children and go out at night? etc. --[[Special:Contributions/142.163.195.93|142.163.195.93]] ([[User talk:142.163.195.93|talk]]) 16:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Please do not''' [[Kanji Panth]] is a new and unique tradition founded by Kanji Swami. Kanji Swami was indeed once a Sthānakavāsī ascetic, but he had given up that affiliation and declared himself a Digambara shravaka. They are Digambara, and worship Digambara idols, although they are somewhat distinct from traditional Digambaras (Bispanthi or Terapanthi). [[User:Malaiya|Malaiya]] ([[User talk:Malaiya|talk]]) 03:43, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Digambara Terapanth should be merged into this article due to lack of sourced content. Capankajsmilyo (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: there are sufficient references to support independent notability. Klbrain (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

non-monks?

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This article seems to be all about monks. What about the average person who belongs to this path? Do they wear clothes? What about at home? Do they have children and go out at night? etc. --142.163.195.93 (talk) 16:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]