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== Who funded the RPF, FRONASA, FREILMO, UNLA and RLA, alll of whom this article states Fred Rwigema was involved in. ==
== Who funded the RPF, FRONASA, FREILMO, UNLA and RLA, alll of whom this article states Fred Rwigema was involved in ==

To set up rebel 'guerrilla' armies requires military training, arms procurement, as well as payments for each individual guerilla'a 'labour'.
To set up rebel 'guerrilla' armies requires military training, arms procurement, as well as payments for each individual guerilla'a 'labour'.
This requires serious funding. Where did this funding come from?
This requires serious funding. Where did this funding come from?
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* His birth name was apparently "Emmanuel Gisa" so the Rwigyema moniker is one he invented himself; as it is not his birth name, it does not follow that it would use Rwandan spelling
* His birth name was apparently "Emmanuel Gisa" so the Rwigyema moniker is one he invented himself; as it is not his birth name, it does not follow that it would use Rwandan spelling
Incidentally, the article currently states that Rwigyema is an "erroneous" form, with a footnote explaining how it is wrong in Kinyarwanda lexicography. But that isn't probably relevant as he was living in Uganda at the time he assumed the name. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 11:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Incidentally, the article currently states that Rwigyema is an "erroneous" form, with a footnote explaining how it is wrong in Kinyarwanda lexicography. But that isn't probably relevant as he was living in Uganda at the time he assumed the name. Thanks &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 11:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 14:38, 13 January 2024

Who funded the RPF, FRONASA, FREILMO, UNLA and RLA, alll of whom this article states Fred Rwigema was involved in

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To set up rebel 'guerrilla' armies requires military training, arms procurement, as well as payments for each individual guerilla'a 'labour'. This requires serious funding. Where did this funding come from?

-tk-  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.83.231 (talk) 18:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply] 

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed for over two weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 11:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]



Fred RwigemaFred Rwigyema – (see talk page) Amakuru (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Having always considered the two forms somewhat interchangeable, it occurred to me recently that there is a fair amount of evidence that "Fred Rwigyema" is the form that he actually used during his lifetime, and was actually his name. The "Rwigema" form appears to be one that has been adopted more recently, mainly in Rwanda itself (where he is now something of a national hero), because that's the more usual spelling there. Various bits of evidence that "Rwigyema" may actually be correct:

  • Most scholarly books which describe him appear to use the "Rwigyema" form - [1][2][3][4]
  • Newspaper articles from the time he was active appear to generally use the "Rwigyema" form - [5]
  • In Uganda (where he lived for most of his life), they overwhelmingly spell it "Rwigyema" - site:ug "fred rwigyema" (738 results) vs site:ug "fred rwigema" (10 results)
  • His birth name was apparently "Emmanuel Gisa" so the Rwigyema moniker is one he invented himself; as it is not his birth name, it does not follow that it would use Rwandan spelling

Incidentally, the article currently states that Rwigyema is an "erroneous" form, with a footnote explaining how it is wrong in Kinyarwanda lexicography. But that isn't probably relevant as he was living in Uganda at the time he assumed the name. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 11:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.