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==Comment==
Inupiat Vs. Inupiaq
"T" Vs. "Q" means ... All Vs. the Individual.
I am the "Q" in Inupiaq, mean "one". Inupiaq in our language means... "I am real."

"Inupiat" means people.
For me to say: "I am Inupiaq", is saying, "I am a real person." But by outsiders we are regarded as Eskimos "meat eaters". <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:69.178.68.107 |69.178.68.107 ]] ([[User talk:69.178.68.107 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.178.68.107 |contribs]]) 08:52, 10 October 2005</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:"Eskimo" is actually from Athabaskan through French and most likely means "snowshoe maker." <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.198.112.213|64.198.112.213]] ([[User talk:64.198.112.213|talk]]) 18:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Weasel Words==
Let's leave the 'exploration' vs. 'exploitation' arguments on the ANWR article page.

This is a page about the Inupiat Peoples. Let's keep the article about them.

[[Special:Contributions/72.82.219.138|72.82.219.138]] ([[User talk:72.82.219.138|talk]]) 16:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

the escomse where living the lif <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.237.225.101|24.237.225.101]] ([[User talk:24.237.225.101|talk]]) 00:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==[[:Category:Inupiat people]] and articles therein==
Now that I've gone and populated the category in someone else's stead yet again, go take a look. I think it's a pretty poor representation of notable Inupiat people (see also [[List of American Inuit]]). The impression derived from initially discovering the category and seeing only one biography article included ([[Shirley Reilly]]) was one of giving undue weight to that one person by virtue of fleeting fame in news headlines.

Let me help with a few important names, if anyone has the time: Frank Ferguson, Willie Hensley, Eben Hopson, Percy Ipalook, Herbie Nayokpuk and Howard Rock. Simeon Oliver may be of similar historical significance, but I'm unclear as to whether or not he's Inupiaq. On a similar note, the vaugeness of easily available source material makes it uncertain whether [[Callan Chythlook-Sifsof]] is actually part Inupiaq or part Yupik. Of course, there are tons of lesser-known-but-still-notable people besides.[[User:RadioKAOS|RadioKAOS]] ([[User talk:RadioKAOS|talk]]) 05:15, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
:In case anyone is hung up that the above list of names includes only men, here were some notable Inupiat women: Emily "Ticasuk" Ivanoff Brown, Della Keats and Sadie Brower Neakok. Cheers.[[User:RadioKAOS|RadioKAOS]] ([[User talk:RadioKAOS|talk]]) 01:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

==Move discussion in progress==
There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Chipewyan people#Requested move|Talk:Chipewyan people]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Chipewyan people crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 09:15, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

==Requested move==
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the proposal was '''moved'''. The t/q issue can be discussed in a subsequent request if desired. --[[User:BDD|BDD]] ([[User talk:BDD|talk]]) 23:43, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

[[:Inupiat people]] → {{no redirect|Inupiat}} – current title was [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Inupiat&action=history moved by Uysvdi on July 21 2011] to [[Inupiat (disambiguation)]] which has no reason to exist, then redirected to PRIMARYTOPIC by same editor on same day; addition of "people" in such cases is clearly unnecessary per PRIMARYTOPIC and also proscribed by UNDAB. <small>--'''Relisted.''' [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)</small> --[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 06:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. We have policy that the people should go at "XXX people" and the language at "XXX language", with "XXX" being a dab page, see [[WP:NCL]]. If you don't like that, try to change the policy. --[[User:JorisvS|JorisvS]] ([[User talk:JorisvS|talk]]) 09:17, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
**'''Reply''' [[WP:NCL]] is ''NOT'' a "policy", it is a ''guideline'' which is subject to the policy known as [[TITLE]]/[[WP:AT]]; that it has never addressed the requirements of those ''policies'' is why trotting it out ''alone'' as it that's the only guideline there is makes no sense at all; that that guideline discussion is currently seeing misrepresentations and and evasions and POV forking and more suggests that NCL needs to go to RfC as actual "proper discussion" there is proving fruitless, as citations of ''actual'' policy are being ignored, as is the emergent conensus that "the people are the PRIMARYTOPIC".[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 16:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' until the issue is addressed properly. These should be discussed at a centralized location.
:There was a discussion once on whether the ethnicity should have precedence for the name, and it was decided it shouldn't. That could be revisited. But it really should be one discussion on the principle, not thousands of separate discussions at every ethnicity in the world over whether it should be at "X", "Xs", or "X people". — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 12:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. An identified people should be the primary topic of a term absent something remarkable standing in the way. [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 02:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' as per the policy [[Wikipedia:Article titles#Use commonly recognizable names]] and the guideline [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)]]. The section [[Wikipedia:Article titles#Precision]] also applies given that Inupiat is a redirect here. There is no need to redo any guideline as it already supports the un-disabiguated title.

:[[User:JorisvS]], there is no policy that says any such thing as articles must be at "foo people" or "foo language". There are two guidelines, [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (languages)]] and [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)]]. Both of those guides support the un-disambiguated terms as does a policy, [[Wikipedia:Article titles#Use commonly recognizable names]] and [[Wikipedia:Article titles#Precision]]. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] ([[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|talk]]) 03:46, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per CambridgeBayWeather. In cases where the requested move simply eliminates the word "people", and the destination title is already a simple redirect to the current title, it is clear that guidelines favoring both [[WP:PRECISE|precision]] and [[WP:CONCISE|conciseness]] support the move. [[User:Xoloz|Xoloz]] ([[User talk:Xoloz|talk]]) 20:21, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
::There was a discussion and a subsequent unanimous vote in favor of explicit disambiguation of people–language pairs. "Inupiat" can refer to both the people and the language, which means it falls under "Where a common name exists in English for both a people and their language, a title based on that term, with explicit disambiguation, is preferred for both articles". "Inupiat" was made a dab page in response to this guideline, only to be made a redirect later without discussion. --[[User:JorisvS|JorisvS]] ([[User talk:JorisvS|talk]]) 15:11, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Is that a template or just a copy-paste you're using to repeat your post across all these RMs? Hell I guess I'll copy paste to, since I'm replying to the same as-if-bot-generated comment. Here are view stats that debunk the premise that "people-language pairs" are a legitimate primarytopic equation, which is utter bunk:
:::*[http://stats.grok.se/en/201403/Inupiat%20people "Inupiat people"] was viewed 4,578 times this month (March)
:::*[http://stats.grok.se/en/201403/Inupiat%20language "Inupiat language"] was viewed 900 times this month
:::That's a more than 5:1 ratio....your premise that "people-language pairs" exist as equally primary topics is rubbish, and demonstrable over and over again; one of the many flawed in NCL. Next time your crew revises that guideline, you should learn some math first and actually look at stats and, oh, sources too....[[User:Skookum1|Skookum1]] ([[User talk:Skookum1|talk]]) 16:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' The common name for this people and language is ''Inupiaq ~ Iñupiaq'' in English. But, in own language, North Alaskan (North Slope and Malimiut) dialects: ''Iñupiaq'' (sg) ''Iñupiak'' (dual) ''Iñupiat'' (pl) ''Iñupiatun'' (language); Seward Peninsula (Qawiaraq) dialects: ''Inupiaq'' (sg) ''Inupiak'' (dual) ''Inupiat'' (pl) ''Inupiatun'' (language). Also see [[Alaska Native Language Center]] site ([http://www.uaf.edu/anlc/languages/i/ ANLC]). --[[User:Kmoksy|Kmoksy]] ([[User talk:Kmoksy|talk]]) 16:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
**Well, if this is correct, then both the current name and the proposed name are incorrect. Maybe this should be closed and if need be relisted with a new target? No sense doing a wrong move. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 19:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
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:<span style="color:#FF4F00;">'''[[WP:RELIST|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.'''</span><br />
:'''Relisting comment:''' Apart from the question of whether to include the word "people" in the title, a consensus is also needed on choosing between the various permutations of the name.<br />
:<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 14:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist -->
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* '''Support'''. At least according to this university source[http://www.uaf.edu/anlc/languages/i/], Inupiat is the plural of Inupiaq. And Inupiaq is also their language. {{quotation|The name "Inupiaq," meaning "real or genuine person" (inuk 'person' plus -piaq 'real, genuine'), is often spelled "Iñupiaq," particularly in the northern dialects. It can refer to a person of this group ("He is an Inupiaq") and can also be used as an adjective ("She is an Inupiaq woman"). The plural form of the noun is "Inupiat," referring to the people collectively ("the Inupiat of the North Slope").}}
: I don't think there is any issue with respect to t/q - it should be t in this title. --[[User:Born2cycle|B]]2[[User_talk:Born2cycle#top|C]] 23:24, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div><!-- Template:pollbottom -->

== Inupiat vs. Inuit ==

Per the [[Inuit]] page, Inuit is a broader term that includes the Inupiat people as well as another. Should the relationship of Inupiat to the more commonly known Inuit term be mentioned somewhere in this article? —[[User:Salton Finneger|Salton Finneger]] ([[User talk:Salton Finneger|talk]]) 16:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

== [[:File:Inupiat Family from Noatak, Alaska, 1929, Edward S. Curtis (restored).jpg]] to appear as POTD ==
Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that [[:File:Inupiat Family from Noatak, Alaska, 1929, Edward S. Curtis (restored).jpg]] will be appearing as [[Wikipedia:picture of the day|picture of the day]] on October 11, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at [[Template:POTD/2014-10-11]]. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the [[Main Page]]. Thanks!&nbsp;—&nbsp;[[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] ([[User talk:Crisco 1492|talk]]) 00:37, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
{{POTD/2014-10-11}}
:I see that I refer to this in a previous thread. Right off the bat, the list of "notable Inupiat" in the article is more a random assortment of names than anything of encyclopedic value or at all reflecting reality. Moreover, there is a link to [[List of American Inuit]]. Since we still don't have our collective shit together as to what is and isn't an "Inuit", it's not exactly settled whether "notable American Inuit" is the exact same thing as "notable Inupiat". I'll try and comb through the rest of the article to spot any other issues.[[User:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> RadioKAOS </span>]]/[[User talk:RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Talk to me, Billy </span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/RadioKAOS|<span style="color:green;"> Transmissions </span>]] 00:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

== Resources ==

Hello, Editors interested in further developing this article may find useful background resources at [http://www.esf.edu/es/sonnenfeld/jsonnenfeld.htm this webpage]. Thanks, [[User:DASonnenfeld|DA Sonnenfeld]] ([[User talk:DASonnenfeld|talk]]) 11:37, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks. The page of Joseph Sonnenfeld in Hill Mari ([[:mrj:Зоненфельд, Йосеф]]) language. --[[User:Kmoksy|Kmoksy]] ([[User talk:Kmoksy|talk]]) 12:36, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

== WP: Balance problem-- Alaska Native Corportations ==

"To equitably manage natural resources, Iñupiat people belong to several of the Alaskan Native Regional Corporations."

That's what the Native corporations who helped write the article would like us to think, in any case!!! The reality is somewhat more complicated, and somewhat LESS equitable!!!

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