Talk:The Cure discography

Sideshow?

The list mentions how, but not the companion single Sideshow that contains additional songs from the Paris show that are not on the main Show album 128.114.60.100 18:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Soundtracks

This article does not include soundtracks that the band has performed on. I know they had songs on the Crow, X-Files, and Resident Evil: Apocalypse soundtracks...

• {{sofixit}} I've done it now, but I didn't include Resi Evil as it's only "Us or Them". MightyMoose22 ^{>Abort, Retry, Fail?_} 19:11, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

But if you count every single live track (the one that says "from Curiosity") of the CD reissues (the second CD), I mean Three Imaginary Boys to Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, you may obtain the "curiosity" record remastered!!!

Should we include the soundtrack to Carnage Visors as a soundtrack? It should certainly be somewhere in the discography. Thehalfone (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Rare (?) French (?) CD box collection

I have a CD-box collection with the name Assemblage CD collection on it that is dated 1991, from Fiction Records. It contains CD versions of the first 10 albums of The Cure (from TIB to disintegration). Does anyone know whether this is an official release? Should it be on this list? --D-rex 15:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I have had a look and I have confirmed it is a release from Fiction so that suggests it is an offical release. It is a also a French only release, so I'm not sure if it should be included in the discography. However, Happily Ever After and Integration were limted to North America and they are in the list? I dont see a problem with someone adding it.

Yeah, what's the suggested way to go with this? Just include releases from the band's country of origin or the entire world - if we're adding the French official release we should also be bearing in mind there may well be a couple of Spanish releases, i know there are quite a few Japanese too.. The list could go on for ever. If we're not including rest of world then surely the US releases need to go - or be put in a US discography page...extraordinary (talk) 13:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

If there is any hope of this article making it to WP:FL it needs to be comprehensive and provide a complete set of items where practical. I guess this means adding official releases from other countries as painful as it may be. --JD554 (talk) 13:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Album covers

I put the album cover images back in. It is debateable as to whether these images are fair use or not. However, almost every other album/discography page on wikipedia includes the album covers, so I'm not sure why they were deleted without any discussion.

No, it isn't debatable. It's not allowed, as there is no commentary on these images. The fact that there are other articles that still need to be fixed doesn't mean that people should revert this article being fixed; please don't pee on the floor where I've just mopped. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:02, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The Walk "Mini Album"

I realize that if you click on the link in the discography for the song "The Walk", That page mentions the "mini album". But should it not be mentioned in the discography? When The Video For "Let's go to bed" was played on MTV (US) (originally, and up until the early 90's) It was credited to an album titled "The Walk" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.87.7 (talk) 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Japanese Whispers

Ok sorry guys but why its missed out I dont know....love it or hate it I consider it an album and one of The Cure's best ones I think its full of superb tracks and should be considered a proper album even though it is a compilation of singles and their B-sides if only other bands could actually do that feat successfully themselves —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.52.11 (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

It's listed in the compilation section. --94.9.78.26 (talk) 09:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course it's an album. It has a clear, distinct character sound and which unifies it stylistically as stongly as on any of their albums. Albums are developed in many ways, and previous appearance of material doesn't necessarily disqualify it from being one. Is it because people don't like it that they don't want to consider it a real Cure album? Is that their coping strategy? It's really misrepresenting The Cure to leave it out of the album list. The quirky ironic humor yet solid musical quality make it an important landmark for the group. A footnote is all that's needed, not leaving it off the album list altogether. Deluno (talk) 21:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Nobody has said it isn't an album. It is listed as a compilation album because that is what it is. --194.176.105.141 (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it's clear that I was using the term "album" as is common in everyday speech, and "Nobody has said it isn't an album" is an equivocation, making a straw man argument of what I said, aside from the point. I maintain that its absence from the "Studio Albums" table in the article is inappropriate given not only its self-contained stylistic & thematic musical unity as previously mentioned, but also its evidently integral place in the development of The Cure's expressive range history of their other studio albums. I can see that there's a case on both sides of the argument of whether or not the prior minor releases of material disqualifies Japanese Whispers from mention in the "Studio Albums" table of the article. I think that a more balanced and representative way to resolve this would be to mention Japanese Whispers in the "Studio Albums" table, but with a footnote to clarify. Perhaps an even better resolution would be to ask Robert Smith himself where he'd prefer it be placed in The Cure's discography. His answer would surely warrant at least a footnote in one place or another. Deluno (talk) 10:29, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. They didn't go in to the studio to record Japanese Whispers. They went in to the studio to record some singles which at a later date someone thought would be a good idea to make an album of. No new material was recorded for the album. It is simply a compilation album of the singles and their b-sides. End of. --90.220.200.125 (talk) 10:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

(addition) I've just dug out my copy of the album and on the front it says "Japanese Whispers: The Cure Singles Nov 82 Nov 83". If that doesn't tell you it's a compilation album, I don't know what does. --90.220.200.125 (talk) 10:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

(and a bit more...) I've just noticed on the inside of the sleeve notes it says "This compilation Ⓟ 1983 Fiction Records © 1983 Fiction Records". So I think if even the record company consider it a compilation, so should we. --90.220.200.125 (talk) 11:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for that, you've convinced me. I'll have to dig up my copy of JW too but I think I remember that on the front. Do you have a reference to support your claim regarding their intentions in recording the singles? BTW, I was not arguing not to mention it in the compilation table, just that perhaps a mention with a footnote in the "studio albums" table may be more representative. It seems such a sore absence there. I'd argue that there are more criteria for classification as "studio album" than just that of whether or not the material has been released previously, but I think that what you've specified tips the balance to present a conclusive enough case, and (trusting that the evidence you've claimed exists) I accept what you've said. Deluno (talk) 01:15, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I disagree it should be in the "studio albums" table with a footnote as you suggest, as we categorize by what they actually are rather than their perceived importance, which would differ from reader to reader. With regards to a reference supporting my claim -- you are asking me to prove a negative. If you believe they intended to produce a studio album, the onus would be on you to provide evidence. However, that wouldn't change the fact it was released as a compilation, but would be an interesting addition to the album's own article. --194.176.105.141 (talk) 15:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I can accept that. Well said. Deluno (talk) 15:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Please add

Please add the single A Forest (Tree Mix), and perhaps the promos Songs from a New Album - Mixed Up, Showpro and Trilogy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torr3 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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Singles

According to the tracklist for the singles compilation album "Galore", "Strange Attraction" was the third single from the album "Wild Mood Swings" and "Gone!" It was the fourth and last. You have to correct that. --JoMaAl 312 (talk) 16:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

done. You could have done it yourself ;-) --Uli.ch (talk) 17:46, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Album Sales

The album sales info has a bunch of problems. Many are missing, others are dubiously sourced or absurdly outdated (several refs are from the 90s), and at least one is just plain weird (why does Three Imaginary Boys have only Australian sales, from a 1981 article?). I suppose someone could theoretically update / complete the info with good sources, but I doubt that is going to happen. The certification info strikes me a fine without giving sales numbers. Any objection to just deleting the Sales columns? CAVincent (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't object to deleting them, I would just suggest that the worldwide sales and their sources be saved, maybe just by adding footnotes (I don't know how to do those, but if someone were interested, that might be cool). But the sales themselves might be better left to the individual pages, so I'm cool with the column going away. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 06:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I agree that the sales column should be removed. As for the worldwide sales, only four of the albums have them listed and they are also all included on the albums' individual articles, so would say no real need to keep them on this page if you get rid of the other sales figures as well. DPUH (talk) 06:53, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Have you guys seen other discography pages? This is a common practice to include sales and certifications next to chart position. When it comes to including only Australian sales, well they are the rare ones available online (especially sales for the first album, not a lot can be found). You can add the sales, those ones which who are published, also Billboard is a reliable source, very respectable one. Sales yes, they can be outdated as well. Hardly these things get updated on a regular basis. And this way instead of clicking on every single article you do have everything on one place. Overall, I am against removing it. Dhoffryn (talk) 08:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

The Smiths discography and Echo & the Bunnymen discography are both, like this article, Featured lists that carry on without providing album sales figures, and are of similarly important bands. Joy Division discography and the Ramones discography, while not featured, similarly make do without album sales figures. All of these articles, like this one, do have certifications, which along with chart positions strike me as sufficient to inform readers of relative popularity. Having haphazard and outdated sales figures seems to me likely to be more misleading than informative.CAVincent (talk) 08:42, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Basing popularity exclusively on certifications is really not enough. It really goes both ways, you can have seriously outdated certifications. In United Kingdom multi platinum levels up untill i think 1985 did not even exist so it gives a wrong impression too, like ABBA's Arrival album was certified only one time platinum which would usually mean 300,000 certified sales (back then certifications were not automatic in UK), while actual sales like Official Charts Reports says the sales have gone way above 1.7 million copies sold in UK. Dhoffryn (talk) 09:01, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

US Alt?

I think it might be a good idea to add the US Alt. positions for the main singles. I understand the Dance Singles are already there, but there's a lot of songs that didn't make it onto the Dance Singles chart. The US Alt. chart is probably the second or third most recurring US chart in The Cure's history. Any thoughts? Xanarki (talk) 22:51, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Taking in to account the MOS:ACCESS limit of 10 chart columns, adding the Alt positions would mean one of the existing charts would have to be removed. The Alt chart only began in the late 80s and a total of 16 Cure songs charted on it (3 of these are listed under the Promotional singles section with the Alt chart peaks). I prefer the Dance column as it spans from the 70s to the 90s and also has more charting Cure songs that the Alt chart, so I don't think adding another component chart is needed. DPUH (talk) 10:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

"Purple Haze" cover

They did it on a Hendrix tribute album sometime in the 90s.

Edit: I see this one is already listed. Please disregard.

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