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==Untitled==
Needs locator map showing location with respect to Australia. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] 05:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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==Concern about naming conventions for islands==

Why are island names in this article in English with the local-name, transliterated, and following? Why is it not disrespectful for the authors to have done that? Particularly now that the courts in Australia have found that the people own the land.

If there is no cogent argument to retain the name-order, I will change all of the names to the Torres Strait form, followed by the English in the first instance. I will wait until the end of September before doing that. [[User:Linmhall|Lin]] ([[User talk:Linmhall|talk]]) 05:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

== Clarity over Political and Geographical borders ==

"A few islands very close to the coast of mainland New Guinea belong to the Western Province of Papua New Guinea, most importantly Daru Island with the provincial capital, Daru."

This should go along the lines of "few of the islands of the Torres Strait close to the Papuan mainland (like Daru and Parama) are politically part of the Western Province of Papua New Guinea."

That way, you make the distinction between the Political nature and the Geographical nature of the Torres Strait rather then merge the two and confusing people. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/49.176.67.203|49.176.67.203]] ([[User talk:49.176.67.203|talk]]) 23:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Sorry, can't see how to create a new topic. My comment is that the summary box under FLAG, and the admin, demographics etc sections are worded as if the Australian islands were the only islands. They should be expanded to include the PNG islands, or renamed to explicitly exclude them. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/220.253.233.77|220.253.233.77]] ([[User talk:220.253.233.77|talk]]) 02:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Independence movement ==

Is this a movement for independence from Australia or (as I have heard) for independence from Queensland as a separate Torres Strait Islands State within Australia?

== Indigenous people ==

There seems to be a tendency for articles like this to gloss over the places' original inhabitants. We go straight from geography, to discovery by Europeans, to modern government without a nod to the people who lived there for 1000s of years. Added link to [[Torres Strait Islanders]]. [[User:Kortoso|Kortoso]] ([[User talk:Kortoso|talk]]) 18:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

==Assessment comment==
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Needs locator map showing location with respect to Australia. -- Beland 05:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article Manar Group has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Nomination of Manar Group for deletion

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Concern about naming conventions for islands

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Why are island names in this article in English with the local-name, transliterated, and following? Why is it not disrespectful for the authors to have done that? Particularly now that the courts in Australia have found that the people own the land.

If there is no cogent argument to retain the name-order, I will change all of the names to the Torres Strait form, followed by the English in the first instance. I will wait until the end of September before doing that. Lin (talk) 05:59, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Clarity over Political and Geographical borders

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"A few islands very close to the coast of mainland New Guinea belong to the Western Province of Papua New Guinea, most importantly Daru Island with the provincial capital, Daru."

This should go along the lines of "few of the islands of the Torres Strait close to the Papuan mainland (like Daru and Parama) are politically part of the Western Province of Papua New Guinea."

That way, you make the distinction between the Political nature and the Geographical nature of the Torres Strait rather then merge the two and confusing people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.176.67.203 (talk) 23:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, can't see how to create a new topic. My comment is that the summary box under FLAG, and the admin, demographics etc sections are worded as if the Australian islands were the only islands. They should be expanded to include the PNG islands, or renamed to explicitly exclude them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.233.77 (talk) 02:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Independence movement

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Is this a movement for independence from Australia or (as I have heard) for independence from Queensland as a separate Torres Strait Islands State within Australia?

Indigenous people

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There seems to be a tendency for articles like this to gloss over the places' original inhabitants. We go straight from geography, to discovery by Europeans, to modern government without a nod to the people who lived there for 1000s of years. Added link to Torres Strait Islanders. Kortoso (talk) 18:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Torres Strait Islands/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

This needs much better references, among other things.--Grahamec 05:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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