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A fact from Elias Polk appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 June 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Elias Polk, one of U.S. President James K. Polk's slaves, became a conservative political activist after the Civil War?

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User:Surtsicna: Thanks for uploading his picture. However, you also removed a picture of his (former) owners and their house (where he lived even after emancipation). Perhaps we could include them all in the article?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:16, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have anything against those pictures per se, but I think that there is not enough space in the article to fit both the infoboxes and three images. Less is often more. Getting rid of the infobox would free up enough space, however. Surtsicna (talk) 19:24, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, the infobox is always a good option. There is space on my screen for two additional pictures. Maybe not on a smaller screen?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:27, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm using 1600 X 900. It looks very crowded with two more images. Infoboxes in articles this small do not really do much; all the info can be glanced over without any scrolling. I suppose File:PolkPlace.jpg could fit into the Personal life, death and legacy section, though I am not sure if it is relevant there (Polk Place is not mentioned in it). Surtsicna (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why is laborer in scare quotes?

I'm genuinely confused; I presume he wasn't merely pretending to labor on the Capitol, which is what such quotes would mean in most circumstances. I really have no idea what they're trying to convey. 131.172.91.255 (talk) 02:02, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removed as undue. It's a direct quote from the RS, but one word is fine.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Being a slave is not an occupation

Why is Elias Polk's list of occupations include being a slave? Clearly an occupation is something you choose to do. Slavery by definition is not something you choose to do there's no volition it is a state of being forced on an individual. It is not a job he was paid for. Slavery is an imposed condition.

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 :I do not have anything against those pictures per se, but I think that there is not enough space in the article to fit both the infoboxes and three images. Less is often more. Getting rid of the infobox would free up enough space, however. [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 19:24, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 ::No, the infobox is always a good option. There is space on my screen for two additional pictures. Maybe not on a smaller screen?[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 19:27, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
+:::I'm using 1600 X 900. It looks very crowded with two more images. Infoboxes in articles this small do not really do much; all the info can be glanced over without any scrolling. I suppose [[:File:PolkPlace.jpg]] could fit into the ''Personal life, death and legacy'' section, though I am not sure if it is relevant there (Polk Place is not mentioned in it). [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] ([[User talk:Surtsicna|talk]]) 21:04, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
+== Why is laborer in scare quotes? ==
+I'm genuinely confused; I presume he wasn't merely pretending to labor on the Capitol, which is what such quotes would mean in most circumstances. I really have no idea what they're trying to convey. [[Special:Contributions/131.172.91.255|131.172.91.255]] ([[User talk:131.172.91.255|talk]]) 02:02, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
+:Removed as undue. It's a direct quote from the RS, but one word is fine.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 02:07, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
+== Being a slave is not an occupation ==
+Why is Elias Polk's list of occupations include being a slave? Clearly an occupation is something you choose to do. Slavery by definition is not something you choose to do there's no volition it is a state of being forced on an individual. It is not a job he was paid for. Slavery is an imposed condition.