Jump to content

Talk:2018 California gubernatorial election: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Assessing: article is 'Future' class.
Implementing WP:PIQA (Task 26)
 
(20 intermediate revisions by 16 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{WikiProject California|class=|importance=Mid}}
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=B|
{{WikiProject Elections and Referendums|class=Future}}
{{WikiProject California |importance= Mid}}
{{WikiProject Elections and Referendums }}
}}


== Removed parties from infobox ==
== Removed parties from infobox ==
Line 11: Line 13:


If we're going to do this, we have to establish some sort of standard for notability; linking to the website for every candidate listed in this article would be unwieldy. For now, I'm removing Jacob Morris and Grant Handzlik's websites since they don't work. [[User:Zeldafanjtl|Zeldafanjtl]] ([[User talk:Zeldafanjtl|talk]]) 21:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
If we're going to do this, we have to establish some sort of standard for notability; linking to the website for every candidate listed in this article would be unwieldy. For now, I'm removing Jacob Morris and Grant Handzlik's websites since they don't work. [[User:Zeldafanjtl|Zeldafanjtl]] ([[User talk:Zeldafanjtl|talk]]) 21:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

== Klement Tinaj ==

Is he independently notable enough to be listed alongside Newsom, Chiang, Eastin, and Vilaraigosa? I can't see him being and more serious than the four perennial candidates above the big box.

[[User:Ueutyi|Ueutyi]] ([[User talk:Ueutyi|talk]]) 06:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

== Reference: Can my name be added under the Republican Candidate for Governor (Declared) for California Governor race 2018? ==

I am also running for California Governor 2018.

Can you please add my name (Robert Patton Kleinberger) and a link to my website information on your page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_election,_2018
I am also announced and registered with the Sec of State of Ca as well as with the FPPC. My website is
www.kleinbergerforgovernor.com

I would like to also upload my photo but the page seems to freeze when I upload a photo to
[[File:Robert P Kleinberger photo|thumb]]
this page.
[[File:RP Kleinberger.jpg|thumb]]
Current and Previous Positions are:

SG1 SOC (2016 - Current)
Aerospace & Rocket Engineering 1987 - 2016 US Army ( 1981 - 1987
Active) Reserves 1987 - Jan 7th 1999 Member US Army Ranger Association
Thank you.
Robert P Kleinberger <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kleinberger.us|Kleinberger.us]] ([[User talk:Kleinberger.us#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kleinberger.us|contribs]]) </small>
: Are there any secondary references (newspapers, etc.) that describe your candidacy? Or an official statement from the Secretary of State that's available online? I don't know how to do the images, but I can do the rest with one of those links. [[User:power~enwiki|power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/Power~enwiki|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 16:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
== Ed Lee ==
Should now deceased Ed Lee be removed from the endorsements section? [[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 01:00, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
:I don't see why. His endorsement still carries weight, even posthumously. [[User:Zeldafanjtl|Zeldafanjtl]] ([[User talk:Zeldafanjtl|talk]]) 23:27, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
::Agree with Zeldafantjl. For example, dead Montana governor [[Judy Martz]] is still listed as an endorsement for Russ Fagg in at [[United States Senate election in Montana, 2018]]. [[User:MB298|MB298]] ([[User talk:MB298|talk]]) 00:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

== Presentation/position of candidates on page ==

The most relevant candidates should be closer to the top of the page. I think everyone can agree on this. But there seems to be disagreement over who are the more relevant candidates. I believe that actual minor party and independent candidates should be higher on the page than major party members that withdrew or ''potential'' candidates declined to run and were never actually connected to the race. There was a table that listed all the actual candidates at the top of the page, but this got removed by [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=California_gubernatorial_election,_2018&oldid=835132429 this commit].

This moves minor party and independent candidates to the bottom of the page, while people like [[George Clooney]] move to the top. This doesn't seem in the best interest of readers trying to find out about the election.
[[User:Dhalsim2|Dhalsim2]] ([[User talk:Dhalsim2|talk]]) 00:30, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

== Update the results by county section table ==

Please update the [[California gubernatorial election, 2018#Results by county|primary results by county table]] with the numbers from the official statement of vote. [[User:Kart2401real|Kart2401real]] ([[User talk:Kart2401real|talk]]) 01:28, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== County results map gives an inaccurate impression ==




In the primary election map, the saturation levels for Cox's red counties does not match the saturation levels for the corresponding percentages for Newsom's blue counties giving an incorrect impression of the amount of Cox's support relative to Newsom. Few counties voted over 50% for either too. Color staturation should scale to percentage, with 100% being fully saturated and 0% being white.

Can someone recreate that image? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:OriEri|OriEri]] ([[User talk:OriEri#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OriEri|contribs]]) 00:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Yes, the county map in the top section doesn't match the county chart. The bad numbers/colors are misleading but apparently on both sides. For example, both Orange & San Diego counties voted for Cox & are red in the chart but both show as blue (Newsom) in the map. This is important because many people will only look up the information on the map & not bother to look at the detailed chart & they will be given wrong information. In fact, I already used the map to tell someone the incorrect information (OC voted for Newsom) before I discovered the mistake. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/162.196.83.202|162.196.83.202]] ([[User talk:162.196.83.202#top|talk]]) 20:09, 8 October 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== I don't understand the ± column in the table ==

What do the 1.98% numbers refer to in the table at the beginning of the election results section (copied here)?

California gubernatorial election, 2018[315]
Party Candidate Votes % ±
Democratic Gavin Newsom 7,721,410 61.95% +1.98%
Republican John H. Cox 4,742,825 38.05% -1.98%
Total votes 12,464,235 100.0% N/A
Democratic hold

[[User:Mpearl|Morris]] ([[User talk:Mpearl|talk]]) 14:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:33, 18 January 2024

Removed parties from infobox

[edit]

California has a nonpartisan blanket primary for governor, meaning that the two candidates that run in the general election could be of any party affiliations. As such, I removed the Party row from the infobox. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 20:54, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Campaign websites in external links?

[edit]

What's common Wikipedia policy on this? I see that United States Senate election in California, 2016 links to the general election candidates' websites, but from my experience when it comes to election articles we tend to have different rules for upcoming elections versus past elections.

If we're going to do this, we have to establish some sort of standard for notability; linking to the website for every candidate listed in this article would be unwieldy. For now, I'm removing Jacob Morris and Grant Handzlik's websites since they don't work. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 21:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Klement Tinaj

[edit]

Is he independently notable enough to be listed alongside Newsom, Chiang, Eastin, and Vilaraigosa? I can't see him being and more serious than the four perennial candidates above the big box.

Ueutyi (talk) 06:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reference: Can my name be added under the Republican Candidate for Governor (Declared) for California Governor race 2018?

[edit]

I am also running for California Governor 2018.

Can you please add my name (Robert Patton Kleinberger) and a link to my website information on your page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_election,_2018

I am also announced and registered with the Sec of State of Ca as well as with the FPPC. My website is www.kleinbergerforgovernor.com

I would like to also upload my photo but the page seems to freeze when I upload a photo to

File:Robert P Kleinberger photo
this page.

Current and Previous Positions are:

SG1 SOC (2016 - Current) Aerospace & Rocket Engineering 1987 - 2016 US Army ( 1981 - 1987 Active) Reserves 1987 - Jan 7th 1999 Member US Army Ranger Association

Thank you.

Robert P Kleinberger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kleinberger.us (talkcontribs)

Are there any secondary references (newspapers, etc.) that describe your candidacy? Or an official statement from the Secretary of State that's available online? I don't know how to do the images, but I can do the rest with one of those links. power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Lee

[edit]

Should now deceased Ed Lee be removed from the endorsements section? Prcc27 (talk) 01:00, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why. His endorsement still carries weight, even posthumously. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 23:27, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Zeldafantjl. For example, dead Montana governor Judy Martz is still listed as an endorsement for Russ Fagg in at United States Senate election in Montana, 2018. MB298 (talk) 00:18, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Presentation/position of candidates on page

[edit]

The most relevant candidates should be closer to the top of the page. I think everyone can agree on this. But there seems to be disagreement over who are the more relevant candidates. I believe that actual minor party and independent candidates should be higher on the page than major party members that withdrew or potential candidates declined to run and were never actually connected to the race. There was a table that listed all the actual candidates at the top of the page, but this got removed by this commit.

This moves minor party and independent candidates to the bottom of the page, while people like George Clooney move to the top. This doesn't seem in the best interest of readers trying to find out about the election. Dhalsim2 (talk) 00:30, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update the results by county section table

[edit]

Please update the primary results by county table with the numbers from the official statement of vote. Kart2401real (talk) 01:28, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

County results map gives an inaccurate impression

[edit]

In the primary election map, the saturation levels for Cox's red counties does not match the saturation levels for the corresponding percentages for Newsom's blue counties giving an incorrect impression of the amount of Cox's support relative to Newsom. Few counties voted over 50% for either too. Color staturation should scale to percentage, with 100% being fully saturated and 0% being white.

Can someone recreate that image? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OriEri (talkcontribs) 00:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the county map in the top section doesn't match the county chart. The bad numbers/colors are misleading but apparently on both sides. For example, both Orange & San Diego counties voted for Cox & are red in the chart but both show as blue (Newsom) in the map. This is important because many people will only look up the information on the map & not bother to look at the detailed chart & they will be given wrong information. In fact, I already used the map to tell someone the incorrect information (OC voted for Newsom) before I discovered the mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.196.83.202 (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the ± column in the table

[edit]

What do the 1.98% numbers refer to in the table at the beginning of the election results section (copied here)?

California gubernatorial election, 2018[315] Party Candidate Votes % ± Democratic Gavin Newsom 7,721,410 61.95% +1.98% Republican John H. Cox 4,742,825 38.05% -1.98% Total votes 12,464,235 100.0% N/A Democratic hold

Morris (talk) 14:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]