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I do not agree that this page should be merged. Separate articles about different battery types would be helpful, and an in-depth explanation of all battery types would be cumbersome in the [[Battery (electricity)]] article. |
I do not agree that this page should be merged. Separate articles about different battery types would be helpful, and an in-depth explanation of all battery types would be cumbersome in the [[Battery (electricity)]] article. |
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I am interested in learning about the history of the AAA type battery, who developed the standard and why it was deemed necessary, how (and by whom) they are typically manufactured, their relative strengths and weaknesses compared with other battery types, typical uses, etc. [[User:Cacophony|Cacophony]] 00:35, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC) |
I am interested in learning about the history of the AAA type battery, who developed the standard and why it was deemed necessary, how (and by whom) they are typically manufactured, their relative strengths and weaknesses compared with other battery types, typical uses, etc. [[User:Cacophony|Cacophony]] 00:35, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC) |
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:::Imho, there should be a table about the different battery types AND articles about them [[User:FAThomssen|IN·VINO·VERITAS]] 11:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC) |
:::Imho, there should be a table about the different battery types AND articles about them [[User:FAThomssen|IN·VINO·VERITAS]] 11:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== PCB == |
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What is a PCB? Couldn't figure it out of the context... ("The AAA is also available in a PCB Tagged version"). |
What is a PCB? Couldn't figure it out of the context... ("The AAA is also available in a PCB Tagged version"). |
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:[[Printed circuit board]]. [[User:Ham Pastrami|Ham Pastrami]] 16:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
:[[Printed circuit board]]. [[User:Ham Pastrami|Ham Pastrami]] 16:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Anti Aircraft What? == |
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I'm no expert but I think this is wrong. AAA batteries are not anti aircraft batteries. [[User:Clopnaz|Clopnaz]] |
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== Pronounciation == |
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I rarely hear "triple-A", but almost always hear "A-A-A." This could well be a British variant, I have never needed to ask for batteries while on holiday. [[User:Dave James Parkes|Dave James Parkes]] 0359, Aug 09, 2007 (UTC) |
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:I have only ever heard "triple-A" anywhere in the United States. Perhaps both pronunciations could be listed? I'm not sure if it really matters that much, but I say go for it if you want. --[[User:Younmm23|Younmm23]] ([[User talk:Younmm23|talk]]) 21:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Capacity == |
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I notice that it says the NiMH batteries have an amperage of 1000 mAh. i'm sitting at home right now, looking at two NiMH that claim to have a value of 1600 mAh. are these numbers values advertised, or are they tested values? if the first, this number is quite old. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Paulcd2000|Paulcd2000]] ([[User talk:Paulcd2000|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paulcd2000|contribs]]) 22:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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It means AAA batteries, Ni-Mh AA batteries have capacities of upto 3200mAh. [[User:Comrinec|Comrinec]] ([[User talk:Comrinec|talk]]) 04:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC) |
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I just did some research into batteries because I wanted to buy some. 950mAh in a "AAA" format is considered to be a very high capacity. The recently developed (2017) "eneloop pro" battery holds 1000mAh absolute maximum: |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneloop#2nd_generation_3 |
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The current source for "1200mah" is a broken link. its just a search result page that returns the wrong result. I believe they meant to link to this battery, the datasheet for which I have found: |
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http://www.accupower.at/datasheets/accupower_AP1200-Specifications.pdf |
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If you read this datasheet, it says that the "nominal" capacity is 1200mAh, however the "typical" capacity is only 980mAh, with no explanation as to where the other 200mAh goes |
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I suggest we at least change the citation so it is not broken. I would also suggest changing the maximum capacity test to say something like "980 typical" or "1200 nominal" |
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[[Special:Contributions/24.52.230.131|24.52.230.131]] ([[User talk:24.52.230.131|talk]]) 14:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC) |
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== Merging this article with "List of battery sizes" == |
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I've reverted changes made by Wtshymanski, which made this page redirect to [[List of battery sizes]], as this was done without any consultation on the talk page. However, it may make sense to merge this page into the List of battery sizes page. --[[User:Supergloom|Supergloom]] ([[User talk:Supergloom|talk]]) 10:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== most important missing element is NOMINAL voltage normal variation in new AAA == |
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a typical alk AAA does not sit at 1.5V after purchase |
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This is an important issue in judging suitability to use, as is profile of voltage drop near end of usable life |
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The range at which a AAA fails to power a typical modern electronic household gadget is equally important |
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There should be a link to how a typical Wikipedia user can expect to test a AAA and what the accuracy of such a typical tester can be expected to be. |
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We USE these things, and USAGE information is lacking as is SAFTEY when discovering a degraded AAA in a device and the VERY REAL risks of shipping devices with old AAA in place in a neglected device ( in case you have never seen a moving van burning on a highway, melting the : pavement beneath it, due to a chemical fire starting in a paper boxed package - as i have on I-35 USA ) |
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:Above was unsigned, edit history shows it was added at 07:39, 31 August 2021 by 2607:fea8:e962:3500:ac44:61e1:b0c3:f7e8. |
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:[[WP:NOTHOWTO|Wikipedia is not a how-to guide]], a substitute for your owner's manual, nor is it a source of safety information. Wikipedia doesn't care if you die screaming. Fires start for lots of reasons and it would be undue emphasis on a rather rare event to describe it at any length here. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 18:00, 7 September 2021 (UTC) |
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== Other common names - Brazil == |
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"Pilha palito" is a very common name for the AAA battery in Brazil. Please do not undo without discussing here. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Osoriosp|Osoriosp]] ([[User talk:Osoriosp#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Osoriosp|contribs]]) 15:22, 30 October 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:We can’t just take your word for it. Provide a citation to that effect, please. [[User:Tarl_N.|<b style="color:green">Tarl N.</b>]] ([[User talk:Tarl N.#top|<span style="color:teal">discuss</span>]]) 07:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::Example of usage in 2008 (see article's body) https://tecnologia.uol.com.br/guia-produtos/imagem/ult6186u1.jhtm |
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::Example of usage (in the article's title) in 2017: http://g1.globo.com/sp/vale-do-paraiba-regiao/noticia/2017/02/panasonic-vai-implantar-linha-de-producao-de-pilhas-palito-em-sao-jose.html |
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::'''''Example of usage and reference that it is famous'':''' https://www.tecmundo.com.br/hubsan-x4-h107c/82484-analise-drone-hubsan-x4-h107c.htm |
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::'''Original PT-BR (Obs: It's in its plural form):''' ''"[...] Ele é alimentado por quatro pilhas AAA (as famosas “'''pilhas palito'''”)"'' |
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::'''''My English Translation:''''' ''"[...] It's powered by four AAA batteries (The famous "pilhas palito")<nowiki>''</nowiki>'' |
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::I'm a native Brazilian. I've updated the Portuguese version with citations and the English version under "other names" also with the citations I've shown above. |
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::By the way, we should add it to the dictionary as well. There are millions of Google results for it. |
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::Almost all if not all of e-commerce uses that word in the titles of the product if you check for it. This is to show its relevancy, they will rarely use useless uncommon words for titles of products. I can't include here e-commerce links, amazon was blacklisted, I won't attempt to add any commercial websites to avoid getting red flagged automatically. [[User:Lucasxp64|Lucasxp64]] ([[User talk:Lucasxp64|talk]]) 12:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC) |
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== they're smaller now == |
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I can't measure accurately enough to tell whether they've gone from 45 to 44.5 or 44.5 to 44mm, but my new duracells are definitely smaller than my old ones. Enough that one device works with the old ones but not new ones. I took some photos, but I'm not sure if I can add them here. [[Special:Contributions/2604:3D08:347B:7500:78CE:8777:7515:346D|2604:3D08:347B:7500:78CE:8777:7515:346D]] ([[User talk:2604:3D08:347B:7500:78CE:8777:7515:346D|talk]]) 23:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:This is pure-quill [[WP:OR|original research]] and not useful to the article unless reliably sourced. Why on Earth would someone make out of tolerance cells and lose market share? Have you tried pulling the contact springs out half a mm to compensate? Sounds way too small a difference to matter. Just checked my obsolete (2011) copy of ISO 60086-2 and table 6.1.1.1 says an R03 can be no more than 44.5 m tall and no less than 43.3 mm. I picked some random batteries off my bench and came up with 44.08 to 44.27 mm, but none of these are Duracells because I don't buy throw-away AAAs unless they are lithium (which was 44.21 mm). Shortest one I had was a used "Golden Power" , age unknown but it came with my recent cable box remote, and it was 44.08. You can pick up a digital caliper at Princess Auto or your local equivalent for about $20 CDN or less most times, they are wonderful instruments. --[[User:Wtshymanski|Wtshymanski]] ([[User talk:Wtshymanski|talk]]) 03:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Page merge
[edit]I do not agree that this page should be merged. Separate articles about different battery types would be helpful, and an in-depth explanation of all battery types would be cumbersome in the Battery (electricity) article. I am interested in learning about the history of the AAA type battery, who developed the standard and why it was deemed necessary, how (and by whom) they are typically manufactured, their relative strengths and weaknesses compared with other battery types, typical uses, etc. Cacophony 00:35, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)
- I also argee with Cacophony that the pages should not be merged. Zzyzx11 | Talk 01:29, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I slightly disagree - a table of battery sizes and capacities would seem to me to be a more useful way to present information than a large number of articles. I bet there's nearly half-a-million battery types out there...could double Wikipedia in short order if someone typed them all in. --Wtshymanski 02:46, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Wtshymanski. A battery table would be helpful. 06:53, June 15, 2005 (EST)
- Imho, there should be a table about the different battery types AND articles about them IN·VINO·VERITAS 11:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I slightly disagree - a table of battery sizes and capacities would seem to me to be a more useful way to present information than a large number of articles. I bet there's nearly half-a-million battery types out there...could double Wikipedia in short order if someone typed them all in. --Wtshymanski 02:46, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
PCB
[edit]What is a PCB? Couldn't figure it out of the context... ("The AAA is also available in a PCB Tagged version").
Anti Aircraft What?
[edit]I'm no expert but I think this is wrong. AAA batteries are not anti aircraft batteries. Clopnaz
Pronounciation
[edit]I rarely hear "triple-A", but almost always hear "A-A-A." This could well be a British variant, I have never needed to ask for batteries while on holiday. Dave James Parkes 0359, Aug 09, 2007 (UTC)
- I have only ever heard "triple-A" anywhere in the United States. Perhaps both pronunciations could be listed? I'm not sure if it really matters that much, but I say go for it if you want. --Younmm23 (talk) 21:00, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Capacity
[edit]I notice that it says the NiMH batteries have an amperage of 1000 mAh. i'm sitting at home right now, looking at two NiMH that claim to have a value of 1600 mAh. are these numbers values advertised, or are they tested values? if the first, this number is quite old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulcd2000 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
It means AAA batteries, Ni-Mh AA batteries have capacities of upto 3200mAh. Comrinec (talk) 04:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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I just did some research into batteries because I wanted to buy some. 950mAh in a "AAA" format is considered to be a very high capacity. The recently developed (2017) "eneloop pro" battery holds 1000mAh absolute maximum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eneloop#2nd_generation_3
The current source for "1200mah" is a broken link. its just a search result page that returns the wrong result. I believe they meant to link to this battery, the datasheet for which I have found: http://www.accupower.at/datasheets/accupower_AP1200-Specifications.pdf
If you read this datasheet, it says that the "nominal" capacity is 1200mAh, however the "typical" capacity is only 980mAh, with no explanation as to where the other 200mAh goes
I suggest we at least change the citation so it is not broken. I would also suggest changing the maximum capacity test to say something like "980 typical" or "1200 nominal" 24.52.230.131 (talk) 14:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Merging this article with "List of battery sizes"
[edit]I've reverted changes made by Wtshymanski, which made this page redirect to List of battery sizes, as this was done without any consultation on the talk page. However, it may make sense to merge this page into the List of battery sizes page. --Supergloom (talk) 10:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
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most important missing element is NOMINAL voltage normal variation in new AAA
[edit]a typical alk AAA does not sit at 1.5V after purchase
This is an important issue in judging suitability to use, as is profile of voltage drop near end of usable life
The range at which a AAA fails to power a typical modern electronic household gadget is equally important
There should be a link to how a typical Wikipedia user can expect to test a AAA and what the accuracy of such a typical tester can be expected to be.
We USE these things, and USAGE information is lacking as is SAFTEY when discovering a degraded AAA in a device and the VERY REAL risks of shipping devices with old AAA in place in a neglected device ( in case you have never seen a moving van burning on a highway, melting the : pavement beneath it, due to a chemical fire starting in a paper boxed package - as i have on I-35 USA )
- Above was unsigned, edit history shows it was added at 07:39, 31 August 2021 by 2607:fea8:e962:3500:ac44:61e1:b0c3:f7e8.
- Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, a substitute for your owner's manual, nor is it a source of safety information. Wikipedia doesn't care if you die screaming. Fires start for lots of reasons and it would be undue emphasis on a rather rare event to describe it at any length here. --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Other common names - Brazil
[edit]"Pilha palito" is a very common name for the AAA battery in Brazil. Please do not undo without discussing here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osoriosp (talk • contribs) 15:22, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
- We can’t just take your word for it. Provide a citation to that effect, please. Tarl N. (discuss) 07:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- Example of usage in 2008 (see article's body) https://tecnologia.uol.com.br/guia-produtos/imagem/ult6186u1.jhtm
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- Example of usage (in the article's title) in 2017: http://g1.globo.com/sp/vale-do-paraiba-regiao/noticia/2017/02/panasonic-vai-implantar-linha-de-producao-de-pilhas-palito-em-sao-jose.html
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- Example of usage and reference that it is famous: https://www.tecmundo.com.br/hubsan-x4-h107c/82484-analise-drone-hubsan-x4-h107c.htm
- Original PT-BR (Obs: It's in its plural form): "[...] Ele é alimentado por quatro pilhas AAA (as famosas “pilhas palito”)"
- My English Translation: "[...] It's powered by four AAA batteries (The famous "pilhas palito")''
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- I'm a native Brazilian. I've updated the Portuguese version with citations and the English version under "other names" also with the citations I've shown above.
- By the way, we should add it to the dictionary as well. There are millions of Google results for it.
- Almost all if not all of e-commerce uses that word in the titles of the product if you check for it. This is to show its relevancy, they will rarely use useless uncommon words for titles of products. I can't include here e-commerce links, amazon was blacklisted, I won't attempt to add any commercial websites to avoid getting red flagged automatically. Lucasxp64 (talk) 12:57, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
they're smaller now
[edit]I can't measure accurately enough to tell whether they've gone from 45 to 44.5 or 44.5 to 44mm, but my new duracells are definitely smaller than my old ones. Enough that one device works with the old ones but not new ones. I took some photos, but I'm not sure if I can add them here. 2604:3D08:347B:7500:78CE:8777:7515:346D (talk) 23:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- This is pure-quill original research and not useful to the article unless reliably sourced. Why on Earth would someone make out of tolerance cells and lose market share? Have you tried pulling the contact springs out half a mm to compensate? Sounds way too small a difference to matter. Just checked my obsolete (2011) copy of ISO 60086-2 and table 6.1.1.1 says an R03 can be no more than 44.5 m tall and no less than 43.3 mm. I picked some random batteries off my bench and came up with 44.08 to 44.27 mm, but none of these are Duracells because I don't buy throw-away AAAs unless they are lithium (which was 44.21 mm). Shortest one I had was a used "Golden Power" , age unknown but it came with my recent cable box remote, and it was 44.08. You can pick up a digital caliper at Princess Auto or your local equivalent for about $20 CDN or less most times, they are wonderful instruments. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)