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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jermboy27/Archive.

A long-term abuse case exists at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Jermboy27.

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-===07 July 2023===
-{{SPI case status|close}}
-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-{{sock list|1=Goadinaloafofbread|tools_link=yes}}<!-- Add more accounts or IPs to this template as needed -->
-Same exclusive focus on signs--e.g., [[Road signs in Chile]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Road_signs_in_Chile&diff=1161160297&oldid=1161148118 Marioman26], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Road_signs_in_Chile&diff=1162413402&oldid=1161907272 RonaldMcmanners], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Road_signs_in_Chile&diff=1162497943&oldid=1162413522 Goadinaloafofbread]); [[Draft:Comparison of Asian road signs]] ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Comparison_of_Asian_road_signs&action=history Jermboy27altsmustdie], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AComparison_of_Asian_road_signs&diff=1149464640&oldid=1149459059 Jquann1998], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AComparison_of_Asian_road_signs&diff=1163980136&oldid=1163515896 Goadinaloafofbread]); etc.  And, of course, confirmed on Commons--check requested here for sleepers/assist G5. [[User:elcobbola|<span style="color:#038"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 19:19, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-{{ping|Bbb23}} who has helped block previous socks. [[User:elcobbola|<span style="color:#038"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 19:20, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Courcelles}}: FWIW, Jermboy27 nearly always uses a proxy, and it is not uncommon to see other bad-actors in the ranges (they are, after all, there for the same reason.)  If you're not familiar with it, bullseye.toolforge.org is an excellent tool for IP information, including whether it's a known proxy. [[User:elcobbola|<span style="color:#038"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 21:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-====<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>====
-*{{Confirmed}} but you knew that already. The only previously unblocked/locked account I see is {{socklinks|NGC 5139 GDPR 53}}. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 19:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*{{re|Courcelles}} I'm confused. Isn't NGC 5139 GDPR 53 a sock of another master?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:01, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*:@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]], They match perfectly to accounts tagged as this master as well as one tagged to {{socklinks|Join Instagram at Under 13}} [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*::There also the previously blocked, but untagged {{socklinks|74-year-old juvenile criminal}} that should likely be included in the lock request. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:08, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*:::{{re|Courcelles}} See [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of CD -32 9396SSE]] + the history of [[HD 224693]] going back years. These are all Jermboy??--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:11, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]], Let’s see if I can explain. Goadinaloafofbread matches self admitted Jermboy sock {{u|Creamatedinstants}} and the tagged {{u|RonaldMcmanners}}.  They also directly match the NGC sock I named above, the 74 year old criminal account, {{u|15-year-old girl from Norway}} and a bunch of other tagged Jermboy socks.  Now, working the NGC sock alone, it matches {{u|SCR 1845-6357}}.  SCR is tagged on its talk page as [[User:Join Instagram at Under 13]], which has its own [[:Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Join Instagram at Under 13]] as well as being tagged itself as a sock of CD -32 9396SSE.  It’s a mess, but technically, they’re the same in current socks. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*:::::{{re|Courcelles}} Sorry to be so insistent, but is there ''any'' behavioral connection between the NGC socks and Jermboy? I've looked back at the archives and can't find anything. Plus, there have been a ton of checks in this case - why did you make the connection now? Is it possible that other CUs have also noticed it but ruled it out behaviorally? Sorry again, but I can't wrap my head around it. I of course can't see the technical details, so I don't know whether the exact same IPs are being used or ranges of the same IPs or just geolocations; nor can I see how distinctive the UAs are.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*::::::@[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] I’m an idiot. They overlap on the exact same IP and very close/version progressive UAs… but more digging indicates that IP is a likely proxy.   So you can just ignore everything I said and assume they are indeed two separate sockpuppeteers. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] ([[User talk:Courcelles|talk]]) 20:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-:*:::::::{{re|Courcelles}} Doesn't sound like you're an idiot if you had to dig to figure out the IP was a proxy. Obvious proxies are easy, but I've always found it hard to identify less obvious ones. Anyway, I've always been told (sometimes not to my liking) that behavior is the touchstone of confirming accounts and that technical data cannot trump behavior. In some instances, that's false (in my view), but not in this one (at least for me). Thanks for digging.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 20:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
-*It's been fun, but I think we're done here now. Closing. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 23:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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