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Would not a better structure 2 have double bonds from carbons 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 and 5-6 ? |
Would not a better structure 2 have double bonds from carbons 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 and 5-6 ? |
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I would read the drawing in a way which is proposed by the above question. [[User:T.vanschaik|T.vanschaik]] ([[User talk:T.vanschaik|talk]]) 20:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC) |
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== Contradiction? == |
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The article seems somewhat contradictory, to me. Paragraph two says, "[The name 'benzyne'] is open for criticism because it implies a triple bond which would be a special case of triple bonds, so a better name is didehydrobenzene." I'm not sure what "implies a triple bond which would be a special case of triple bonds" means (can anyone rephrase this into something comprehensible?) but sentence seems to me to be saying that we shouldn't call it "benzyne" because "-yne" suggests a triple bond that isn't there. However, the rest of that paragraph and the following one repeatedly calls the substance "benzyne" and talks about its triple bond.[[User:Dricherby|Dricherby]] ([[User talk:Dricherby|talk]]) 01:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC) |
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== Recent Changes == |
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I see there have been a lot of changes recently, and a bit of an edit skirmish. Could we please have some dialog? The opening image was topical and nice, but not terribly encyclopedic--was that the issue? The new content is nice, but it does need some copy-editing. Can we work together here? [[User:E kwan|Eugene Kwan]] ([[User talk:E kwan|talk]]) 04:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== content vanished == |
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All nice and well, the article expansion but at the same time a lot of content has vanished. Look more like an article replacement. Deletion of content should be discussed / commented. [[User:V8rik|V8rik]] ([[User talk:V8rik|talk]]) 19:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Dear V8rik, I have incorporated a lot of the content that was on the previous article in text. Have replaced figures with ones that have same chem draw settings. The metal-benzyne complexes part was heavily based on just a few papers, and was a bit detached from the rest of the article, but can be returned to the article. [[User:Alevina89|Alevina89]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 00:20, 13 December 2012 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Currently (13/6/2019) it has this sentence: |
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"Even at low temperatures arynes are extremely reactive. Their reactivity can be classified in four major classes: (1) nucleophilic additions, (2) pericyclic reactions, and (3) bond-insertion. " |
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Whats the 4th class? Accidentally omitted or edited out? |
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== o-, m- and p-Benzynes or 1,2-, 1,3- and 1,4-didehydrobenzenes?== |
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It is well accepted that only 1,2-didehydrobenzene can be called benzyne, implying a triple bond between two consecutive carbon atoms. The other two isomers SHOULD NEVER be called m-benzyne and p-benzyne, there is no possible structure with a triple bond. IUPAC (and common sense) recommends the names 1,3- and 1,4-didehydrobenzene for these intermediates. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Daniblanco|Daniblanco]] ([[User talk:Daniblanco|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Daniblanco|contribs]]) 13:31, 5 February 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Good point. It was a student project and was never corrected. --[[User:Smokefoot|Smokefoot]] ([[User talk:Smokefoot|talk]]) 16:24, 5 February 2016 (UTC) |
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::I added the IUPAC cites to the lede. Looks like [[dehydrobenzene]]/[[dehydroarene]] should be an article and shift the 1,3- and 1,4- content from here to there. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|talk]]) 16:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC) |
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Would not a better structure 2 have double bonds from carbons 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 and 5-6 ?
I would read the drawing in a way which is proposed by the above question. T.vanschaik (talk) 20:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Contradiction?
[edit]The article seems somewhat contradictory, to me. Paragraph two says, "[The name 'benzyne'] is open for criticism because it implies a triple bond which would be a special case of triple bonds, so a better name is didehydrobenzene." I'm not sure what "implies a triple bond which would be a special case of triple bonds" means (can anyone rephrase this into something comprehensible?) but sentence seems to me to be saying that we shouldn't call it "benzyne" because "-yne" suggests a triple bond that isn't there. However, the rest of that paragraph and the following one repeatedly calls the substance "benzyne" and talks about its triple bond.Dricherby (talk) 01:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Recent Changes
[edit]I see there have been a lot of changes recently, and a bit of an edit skirmish. Could we please have some dialog? The opening image was topical and nice, but not terribly encyclopedic--was that the issue? The new content is nice, but it does need some copy-editing. Can we work together here? Eugene Kwan (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
content vanished
[edit]All nice and well, the article expansion but at the same time a lot of content has vanished. Look more like an article replacement. Deletion of content should be discussed / commented. V8rik (talk) 19:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Dear V8rik, I have incorporated a lot of the content that was on the previous article in text. Have replaced figures with ones that have same chem draw settings. The metal-benzyne complexes part was heavily based on just a few papers, and was a bit detached from the rest of the article, but can be returned to the article. Alevina89 —Preceding undated comment added 00:20, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Currently (13/6/2019) it has this sentence:
"Even at low temperatures arynes are extremely reactive. Their reactivity can be classified in four major classes: (1) nucleophilic additions, (2) pericyclic reactions, and (3) bond-insertion. "
Whats the 4th class? Accidentally omitted or edited out?
o-, m- and p-Benzynes or 1,2-, 1,3- and 1,4-didehydrobenzenes?
[edit]It is well accepted that only 1,2-didehydrobenzene can be called benzyne, implying a triple bond between two consecutive carbon atoms. The other two isomers SHOULD NEVER be called m-benzyne and p-benzyne, there is no possible structure with a triple bond. IUPAC (and common sense) recommends the names 1,3- and 1,4-didehydrobenzene for these intermediates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniblanco (talk • contribs) 13:31, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- Good point. It was a student project and was never corrected. --Smokefoot (talk) 16:24, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- I added the IUPAC cites to the lede. Looks like dehydrobenzene/dehydroarene should be an article and shift the 1,3- and 1,4- content from here to there. DMacks (talk) 16:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)