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== World Rugby Pacific Challenge: NPOV == |
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::: '''Proposed wording''': "The APC is funded by [[World Rugby]], and effectively replaced the previous format of the [[Americas Rugby Championship#Second and third editions|Americas Rugby Championship]] and participation by Americas teams in the [[World Rugby Pacific Challenge]].<ref name=ARNOverview>{{cite web |url=http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2016/09/07/world-rugby-confirms-americas-pacific-challenge/ |title=World Rugby confirms Americas Pacific Challenge |date=September 7, 2016 |website=Americas Rugby News |access-date=October 11, 2018}}</ref> |
::: '''Proposed wording''': "The APC is funded by [[World Rugby]], and effectively replaced the previous format of the [[Americas Rugby Championship#Second and third editions|Americas Rugby Championship]] and participation by Americas teams in the [[World Rugby Pacific Challenge]].<ref name=ARNOverview>{{cite web |url=http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2016/09/07/world-rugby-confirms-americas-pacific-challenge/ |title=World Rugby confirms Americas Pacific Challenge |date=September 7, 2016 |website=Americas Rugby News |access-date=October 11, 2018}}</ref> |
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{{od|5}} Thanks {{u|Ebbillings}}, that's an improvement but I think this is better: |
{{od|5}} Thanks {{u|Ebbillings}}, that's an improvement but I think this is better: |
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:The APC is funded by World Rugby.<ref name=WR2016PR/> Prior to its creation, two teams from the Americas had played in the [[World Rugby Pacific Challenge|Pacific Challenge]].<ref name=rnz-2015/> This was reversed in 2016 with two Pacific Island teams joining the APC{{hsp}}<ref name=arn-rd3-2016/> which effectively replaced previous |
:The APC is funded by World Rugby.<ref name=WR2016PR/> Prior to its creation, two teams from the Americas had played in the [[World Rugby Pacific Challenge|Pacific Challenge]].<ref name=rnz-2015 /> This was reversed in 2016 with two Pacific Island teams joining the inaugural APC{{hsp}}<ref name=arn-rd3-2016 /> which effectively replaced the previous format of the [[Americas Rugby Championship]].<ref name=ARNOverview /> |
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Brings in other sources instead of relying solely on the ARN piece from September 2016, which |
Brings in other sources instead of relying solely on the ARN piece from September 2016, which misleads on the Pacific Challenge. -- [[User:Ham105|Ham105]] ([[User talk:Ham105|talk]]) 05:22, 8 February 2019 (UTC) |
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:: {{u|Ham105}}, I agree that your wording is even better. Seeing no other discussion or input, I'll implement the change. [[User:Ebbillings|ebbillings]] ([[User talk:Ebbillings|talk]]) 15:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC) |
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::: Many thanks -- [[User:Ham105|Ham105]] ([[User talk:Ham105|talk]]) 21:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC) |
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<ref name=WR2016PR>{{cite web |url=https://www.world.rugby/news/189117 |title=Americas Pacific Challenge set for October kick-off in Uruguay |date=July 9, 2016 |publisher=[[World Rugby]] |access-date=October 11, 2018}}</ref> |
<ref name=WR2016PR>{{cite web |url=https://www.world.rugby/news/189117 |title=Americas Pacific Challenge set for October kick-off in Uruguay |date=July 9, 2016 |publisher=[[World Rugby]] |access-date=October 11, 2018}}</ref> |
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<ref name=rnz-2015>{{cite news |date=March 10, 2016 |title=Rugby World Cup places on offer in Pacific Challenge |work=Radio New Zealand |accessdate=February 8, 2019 |url=https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/268274/sport-rugby-world-cup-places-on-offer-in-pacific-challenge}}</ref> |
<ref name=rnz-2015>{{cite news |date=March 10, 2016 |title=Rugby World Cup places on offer in Pacific Challenge |work=Radio New Zealand |accessdate=February 8, 2019 |url=https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/268274/sport-rugby-world-cup-places-on-offer-in-pacific-challenge}}</ref> |
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<ref name=arn-rd3-2016>{{cite web |date=October 15, 2016 |title=Americas Pacific Challenge – Round 3 Preview |
<ref name=arn-rd3-2016>{{cite web |date=October 15, 2016 |title=Americas Pacific Challenge – Round 3 Preview |website=Americas Rugby News |accessdate=February 8, 2019 |
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|url= http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2016/10/15/americas-pacific-challenge-round-3-preview/}}</ref> |
|url= http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2016/10/15/americas-pacific-challenge-round-3-preview/}}</ref> |
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World Rugby Pacific Challenge: NPOV
[edit]Asserting that the APC effectively replaced previous formats of the World Rugby Pacific Challenge is misleading.
- The cited source of this, from September 2016, goes on to say that the Pacific Challenge "is now" contested by the senior 'A' teams of Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, and Japan in March. – However, the tournament had been contested by those same core teams in March since 2011 (and still is).
- This ARN source is tailored towards readers wanting, as the name of the website indicates, Americas Rugby News. If you take the point of view of teams from Argentina or Canada (within the Americas) then, yes, the APC replaced the previous version of the Pacific Challenge as the tournament in which they played. – However, that is not the neutral point of view.
- It is more correct, from a WP:NPOV, to say that the current format of the Pacific Challenge replaced the previous format of the Pacific Challenge (namely, the Pacific Cup). – The fact that Canada was invited for one year or the Pampas XV played for two years does not alter this. -- Ham105 (talk) 00:02, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ham105, would it be satisfactory to you to reword the sentence in question in this way? ebbillings (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Proposed wording: "The APC is funded by World Rugby, and effectively replaced the previous format of the Americas Rugby Championship and participation by Americas teams in the World Rugby Pacific Challenge.[1]
- Ham105, would it be satisfactory to you to reword the sentence in question in this way? ebbillings (talk) 16:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Ebbillings, that's an improvement but I think this is better:
- The APC is funded by World Rugby.[2] Prior to its creation, two teams from the Americas had played in the Pacific Challenge.[3] This was reversed in 2016 with two Pacific Island teams joining the inaugural APC [4] which effectively replaced the previous format of the Americas Rugby Championship.[1]
Brings in other sources instead of relying solely on the ARN piece from September 2016, which misleads on the Pacific Challenge. -- Ham105 (talk) 05:22, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ham105, I agree that your wording is even better. Seeing no other discussion or input, I'll implement the change. ebbillings (talk) 15:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Many thanks -- Ham105 (talk) 21:48, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "World Rugby confirms Americas Pacific Challenge". Americas Rugby News. September 7, 2016. Retrieved October 11, 2018.
- ^ "Americas Pacific Challenge set for October kick-off in Uruguay". World Rugby. July 9, 2016. Retrieved October 11, 2018.
- ^ "Rugby World Cup places on offer in Pacific Challenge". Radio New Zealand. March 10, 2016. Retrieved February 8, 2019.
- ^ "Americas Pacific Challenge – Round 3 Preview". Americas Rugby News. October 15, 2016. Retrieved February 8, 2019.