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==Game Play and Development== |
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==[[Wii Health Pack]]== |
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The list of activites in Gameplay seems to be quite large and with a lot of white space. I think that they should be reformatted into some form of a table or into a collapsable list in order to appear tidier. Here is a subsection of the table I quickly put together (the rest of it is commented out for clarity), if it looks good to add: |
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Hmm, that article was just redirected here, someone should probably pull the quotes in from there to make for better sourcing? [[User:Mckaysalisbury|McKay]] 18:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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{| class="wikitable" width=99% border="1" |
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== "Wii Fit"? == |
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! rowspan="1" | '''Yoga''' |
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! colspan="1" | '''Strength Training''' |
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! colspan="1" | '''Aerobics''' |
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! colspan="1" | '''Balance Games''' |
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| align="center" | Deep Breathing |
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| align="center"| Single Leg Extension |
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| align="center" | [[Hula hoop|Hula Hoop]] |
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| align="center" | [[Soccer]] Heading |
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| align="center" | Half-Moon |
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| align="center"| Sideways Leg Lift |
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| align="center" | Super Hula Hoop |
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| align="center" | [[Ski jumping|Ski Jump]] |
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Surely this page needs to be renamed and moved to "Wii Fit", with a space inbetween "Wii" and "Fit", per other Wii Series games, such as "Wii Sports" and "Wii Play"? Is it possible for anyone to do this, as it says only an administrator can do this. Help? --[[User:Zooba|Zooba]] 18:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:I placed a speedy tag on Wii Fit to make room for this page to be moved. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] 19:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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| align="center" | Dance |
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| align="center"| Arm and Leg Lift |
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| align="center" | Rhythm boxing |
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| align="center" | [[Slalom skiing|Ski Slalom]] |
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| align="center" | [[Bhujangasana|Cobra]] |
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| align="center"| Single-Arm Stand |
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| align="center" | [[Step aerobics|Basic Step]] |
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| align="center" | [[Snowboard]] [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|Slalom]] |
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| align="center" | [[Bridge (exercise)|Bridge]] |
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| align="center"| Torso Twists |
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| align="center" | Advanced Step |
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| align="center" | Table Tilt |
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| align="center" | Spinal Twist |
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| align="center"| [[Squat (exercise)|Rowing Squat]] |
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| align="center" | Free Step |
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| align="center" | [[Tightrope walking|Tightrope Walk]] |
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| align="center" | Shoulder Stand |
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| align="center"| Single Leg Twist |
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| align="center" | [[Jogging|Basic Run]] |
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| align="center" | Balance Bubble |
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| align="center" | Warrior |
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| align="center"| [[Lunge (exercise)|Lunge]] |
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| align="center" | 2-P Run |
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| align="center" | Penguin Slide |
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| align="center" | [[Surya Namaskara|Sun Salutation]] |
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| align="center"| [[Push-up|Push-Up]] and [[Plank (exercise)|Side Plank]] |
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| align="center" | Free Run |
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| align="center" | [[Zazen|Lotus Focus]] |
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| align="center" | [[Vrksasana|Tree]] |
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| align="center"| [[Jackknife]] |
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| align="center" | [[Adho Mukha Svanasana|Downward Facing Dog]] |
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| align="center"| [[Plank]] |
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| align="center" | Standing Knee |
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| align="center"| [[Lying triceps extensions|Triceps Extension]] |
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| align="center" | Palm Tree |
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| align="center"| Push-Up Challenge |
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| align="center" | [[Utkaṭāsana|Chair]] |
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| align="center"| Plank Challenge |
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| align="center" | [[Trikonasana|Triangle]] |
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| align="center"| Jackknife Challenge |
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I also personally think that the development section is lacking, focusing too much on MIyamoto's initial design and too little on the actual development. I think that the ''Iwata Asks'' interviews would be incorporated, as they are rich in detail. I have the link to first volume, but references should be created when they are actually used, and I suggest with <code><nowiki><ref name="iwata_volX_Y"></nowiki></code>, where X is the volume number and Y is the page number. |
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== Deletion? == |
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*[http://us.wii.com/wii-fit/iwata_asks/vol1_page1.jsp Iwata Asks] |
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Why is this page up for deletion? It was Merged with Wii Health Pack since it is the same game. [[User:Neo Samus|Neo Samus]] 18:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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--[[User:ThomasO1989|ThomasO1989]] ([[User talk:ThomasO1989|talk]]) 00:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:The reasons are indicated in the template. This is only temporary. The article will not be permanently deleted. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] 18:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Oh my mistake. I should've read the whole thing. Sorry about that. [[User:Neo Samus|Neo Samus]] 18:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Actually, I removed it. There has been some discussion as to whether the Wii Health Pack and Wii Fit are the same, and given that history merges are difficult to undo, I decided to hold off for a while. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] 18:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Yeah, I'm not so sure it is the same game. But the article really needs to be "Wii Fit" like "Wii Sports" unless Nintendo types it as WiiFit. [[User:Lamename3000|LN3000]] 20:09, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::In due time. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] 20:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Proposed merge of [[Wii Fit Plus]] into [[Wii Fit]] == |
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== Merge == |
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{{archive top |result=One week has passed; only one editor participated, and they have stated support for merging. This discussion is closed. [[User:SmartAn01|SmartAn01]] ([[User talk:SmartAn01|talk]]) 06:41, 1 August 2022 (UTC) |status=merge}} |
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I don't think Wii Fit Plus is notable enough to warrant its own article, especially since the lead of its article states that "the game is an enhanced version of Wii Fit." Aside from some new minigames, activities, and features, it is fundamentally the same game. I liken it to [[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe]], which is basically an enhanced version of [[Mario Kart 8]]; a [[Talk:Mario Kart 8#Merge discussion|discussion in January 2022]] on merging the articles of those two games found unanimous support. [[User:SmartAn01|SmartAn01]] ([[User talk:SmartAn01|talk]]) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Personally I think Wii Health Pack and Wii Fit are the same game. It sounds to me that they both have the same general concept. [[User:Neo Samus|Neo Samus]] 21:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Support Merge''' - If this had [[WP:SIGCOV]] to merit its own spinout article I could see it having merit. As I understand it this is essentially Wii Fit 1.5, and it didn't exactly like the journalistic world on fire, so there's not coverage enough to support something standalone when this could easily be merged. --[[User:Teancum|Teancum]] ([[User talk:Teancum|talk]]) |
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:I agree and would support a merge. [[User:Peter S.|Peter S.]] 22:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::They are the same game and should be merged immediately. [[User:Zomic13|Zomic_13]] 00:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Merge'''</s> I agree with the merger. Wii Fit is the re-branded name. --[[User:Souphanousinphone|Souphanousinphone]] 00:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Has it actually been said Wii Health Pack is now known as Wii Fit? I don't think we should assume "2 similar games = a renamed game", until we know for sure. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 04:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Nope. Only some Australian Nintendo fan website claims to be it but no official word from Nintendo according to Google News search. I strike my "vote" because it would definitely make me a hypocrite for asking citations on certain facts on this website. :-P --[[User:Souphanousinphone|Souphanousinphone]] 04:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::'''Merge''' Frankly, I think that we can get away with adding a "Wii Health Pack" section to Wii Fit, detailing what Wii Health Pack was all about, the similarities between the two, and the subsequent ambiguity regarding whether Wii Health Pack became Wii Fit. --[[User:Zooba|Zooba]] 05:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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'''Oppose''' Wii Fit is a game just like [[Wii Sports]] and [[Wii Play]], so it really needs it's own page, like every single other game on Wikipedia [[User:JayKeaton|JayKeaton]] 16:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:I think you may misunderstand the discussion. We're discussing whether the [[Wii Health Pack]] should be merged here due to the fact that, apparently, both articles are talking about the same thing. -- -- [[User:MisterHand|<small><span style="color: #0000ff">'''MisterHand'''</span></small>]] <small><small>([[User talk:MisterHand|Talk to the Hand]]|[[Special:Contributions/MisterHand|Contribs]])</small></small> 17:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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'''Oppose''' I really think that we need to keep the articles separate until we know more information. There is always confusion when a new game is announced and details are scarce. I think it is best to keep the articles separate until we know for sure. [[User:Lamename3000|LN3000]] 17:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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'''Merge''' If I'm not mistaken, Wii Health Pack was never a real name. "The 'Health Pack' is the working title for a future release for Wii, announced by Shigeru Miyamoto at a conference held in mid-September. He described it as a way to help get families exercising together." [http://wii.nintendo.com/iwata_asks_vol4_p1.jsp] --[[User:Enbob89|enbob89]] 23:05, 12 July 2007 (UTC) |
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'''Merge''' Hey, paisanos! Here'sa news article that mentions that Wii Fit was indeed codenamed Wii Health Pack. http://wii.ign.com/articles/804/804113p1.html IGN should be reliable enough for something like this, right? --[[User:Cma|Migs]] 13:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:That's good enough for me. '''Merge''' -- [[User:MisterHand|<small><span style="color: #0000ff">'''MisterHand'''</span></small>]] <small><small>([[User talk:MisterHand|Talk to the Hand]]|[[Special:Contributions/MisterHand|Contribs]])</small></small> 14:24, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:So we're all agreed? Good. I'll do the merge. --[[User:Zooba|Zooba]] 15:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::Who's all agreed? 4 for the merge and 2 against it, don't you think you should wait a bit for more support either way? The merge is foolish. [[User:Lamename3000|LN3000]] 17:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::On the slim chance that the IGN article is wrong, and the "Wii Health Pack" turns out to be a completely different product that just happens to have the same description as "Wii Fit", it'll be easy to undo. We can just revert [[Wii Health Pack]] back to the version before the redirect, and resume editing. -- [[User:MisterHand|<small><span style="color: #0000ff">'''MisterHand'''</span></small>]] <small><small>([[User talk:MisterHand|Talk to the Hand]]|[[Special:Contributions/MisterHand|Contribs]])</small></small> 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Furthermore, one of the Opposes was based on a false presumption of what the merge would actuall entail. I just decided to [[Wikipedia: Be bold|be bold!]]. --[[User:Zooba|Zooba]] 18:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== How == |
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[http://www.ft.com/cms/s/21f9091c-3098-11dc-9a81-0000779fd2ac.html Financial Times] has some comments about how Miyamoto came with the idea of this game, it may be useful here. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 03:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Merge the Walking stuff == |
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The part where it says Step off and back on during the rhythm should be Step Aerobics. |
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== Any australian release dates == |
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I was wandering if anybody know the release date ror Australia other than 2008 . |
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As i am intrested for the board itself . |
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By the way i saw a video on youtube about it an the reggie showing of his weaght to the audience [[User:Richardson j|Richardson j]] 05:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Wii Sex?? == |
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Is this game actually going to be succeeded Wii Sex or is that vandlism? [[User:MSanchez252|MSanchez252]] 10:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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That's definetely vandalism. Nintendo would ''NEVER'' do something like that.[[User:Link 486|Link 486]] 16:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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A third party could invent such a game. I working on a design for the game controller right now. [[User:209.29.96.31|209.29.96.31]] 12:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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== Measuring weight? == |
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Also, isn't the Balance Board capable of measuring your weight, too? [[User:Link 486|Link 486]] 16:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:I seem to recall seeing an interview with Miyamoto where he said that the board itself would be (technically) capable of reading your weight more accurately than the average bathroom scales. However, I don't know if that means the 'game' actually ''will'' do that, or if it's just that the board itself is physically capable of it. [[User:Bladestorm|Bladestorm]] 16:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Since it calculates [[Body mass index|BMI]] it must be able to read your weight. -- [[User:MisterHand|<span style="color: #0000ff">'''MisterHand'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:MisterHand|Talk to the Hand]]|[[Special:Contributions/MisterHand|Contribs]])</small> 16:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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: i just tryed wii fit and it can and will measure your weight! it will also tell you if you are underweight ideal over weight or obese =D <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.106.182.113|81.106.182.113]] ([[User talk:81.106.182.113|talk]]) 19:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Game Engine == |
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Does anyone know the name of the game engine (i.e., middleware) used in the development of Wii Fit? Is it third-party or in-house? [[User:Aeonassoc|Aeonassoc]] 15:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Mario? == |
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"Plumbing where the player helps Mario fix the plumbing of someone's house" sounds incredibly fake. Is it real, and if so, can we find a citation?--[[User:The last sheikah|The last sheikah]] 11:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== The "Boxart" == |
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Hey dudes, |
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Just a heads up. The boxart that's been posted is a fan-made creation; please do not use it in the article. The template used is rendered poorly, and the lines are "squiggly". There is absolutely no way Nintendo would release an image of such poor quality. [[User:65.162.63.128|65.162.63.128]] 19:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Merge discussion == |
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I am proposing a merge discussion on several Wii articles - the discussion to be, however, what to merge and where. If anyone would like to join in, please go to [[Talk:Wii]]. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 17:51, 28 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:I don't think this article will be merged. It has already been released in Japan and it is big news. I can't imagine the Wii Fit article ever being merged. [[User:JayKeaton|JayKeaton]] 09:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC) |
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== Release Date == |
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The article says it will be released in either January 1, or February 6. But there is no source, could someone please find a source to verify this claim. Thank you. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.121.100.15|69.121.100.15]] ([[User talk:69.121.100.15|talk]]) 12:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Kevin 19: I was searching gamestracker.co.uk, and Wii Fit was listed as 25 May, 2008 for Europe. Has this been seen anywhere else? Sounds about right anyway.. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kev19|Kev19]] ([[User talk:Kev19|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kev19|contribs]]) 21:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Amazon's saying that. Interestingly the NoE website doesn't have a date and is also calling the name Wii Fit now. I reckon it's probably better to wait for a proper announcement regarding the release in Europe, there's little benefit in simply reiterating other people's guesswork. [[User:EvilRedEye|EvilRedEye]] ([[User talk:EvilRedEye|talk]]) 22:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC) |
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I just checked IGN and it is under TBA 2008. I thought it would be released in January or February, is there a Nintendo source????????????[[Special:Contributions/69.121.100.15|69.121.100.15]] ([[User talk:69.121.100.15|talk]]) 22:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3165036 |
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1up says the release date is May 20 2008 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.110.144.12|70.110.144.12]] ([[User talk:70.110.144.12|talk]]) 15:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:When it comes to a Nintendo product, it's best to wait for an official release date from the company itself because it tends to change often, and then some. [[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 04:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::Looks like 1UP is pretty accurate, despite being off 1 day. Nintendo announced that Wii Fit is out May 19, 2008. [[User:Versus22|Versus22]] ([[User talk:Versus22|talk]]) 16:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC) |
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=== Citation === |
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There is proof that the North American release date is [[May 21]], [[2008]] [[http://www.nintendo.com/wiifit/en]] [[User:Jhuhn|Jhuhn]] ([[User talk:Jhuhn|talk]]) 03:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:The North American release date should be kept as [[May 19]], [[2008]], since the web page your link goes to says [[May 21]] is the "in store" date. From [[WP:VG/DATE]]: |
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:"Keep in mind that some publishers may advertise a "release date", while some may advertise an "in-store date", and some may advertise both. (See ''[[Metroid Prime 3: Corruption]]'' for an example of both.) Usually, ''but not always'', the "release date" is the date on which the publisher ships the game to retailers, resulting in an in-store date of between one and three days later. In general, a video game article should use the official ''release'' date and not the ''in-store'' date, if two separate dates are announced." --[[User:Silver Edge|Silver Edge]] ([[User talk:Silver Edge|talk]]) 04:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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=== Delay === |
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The Wii Fit website, Nintendo.com, the Nintendo Channel, Gamestop, and EB Games all say that Wii Fit comes out on May 21. I changed it from 19 to 21... <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.121.102.73|69.121.102.73]] ([[User talk:69.121.102.73|talk]]) 00:38, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I have reverted your edit, see [[#Citation]]. --[[User:Silver Edge|Silver Edge]] ([[User talk:Silver Edge|talk]]) 02:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Sorry! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.121.102.73|69.121.102.73]] ([[User talk:69.121.102.73|talk]]) 11:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I'm nor sure if this was the case before, but right now most of Nintendo's current material uses the May 19 date. This includes Nintendo.com. Although the Nintendo Channel still uses the May 21 date, it also still lists the release date for [[Summon Night: Twin Age]] as May 20, despite the fact Atlus announced a delay weeks ago. Duhman0009 claims that "The game will only be sold on the 19th (and 20th) at the Nintendo World Store in New York", presumably citing Nintendo's mid-April press release, despite the fact that the press release did not actually preclude availability elsewhere. Regardless, whether or not it is an in-store date doesn't matter, per the guideline Silver Edge quoted previously. May 19 is the date Nintendo is currently using. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] ([[User talk:Dancter|talk]]) 17:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Picture Logo == |
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I replaced the picture Logo by the Japanese box of the game since pretty much all of the game pages on Wiki feature the box cover. |
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If anyone has an official NA or EUR box pic, please replace it. |
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[[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 16:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Well I've added a link to it, hopefully someone will convert it into a picture [[User:FMasic|FMasic]] ([[User talk:FMasic|talk]]) 18:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:: I've uploaded the final PAL boxart (taken from the Nintendo Asset Library). [[User:Xevious|Tim (Xevious)]] ([[User talk:Xevious|talk]]) 18:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Seeing as Wii Fit is coming out in PAL countries well in advance of the American release, it would make sense for the box art to be the PAL art. The Japanese box could be considered, because it is a Japanese product and first released in Japan, but this is the English wikipedia (NOT the American Wikipedia, so PAL is the right choice). [[User:JayKeaton|JayKeaton]] ([[User talk:JayKeaton|talk]]) 05:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Region inter-compatability == |
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Does anyone know if the Japanese wii board identical to the US one? |
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The Japanese Wiifit (disc and board) is confirmed to be working on a US Wii (note:with modchip) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.233.169.47|83.233.169.47]] ([[User talk:83.233.169.47|talk]]) 04:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I know that the European Balance Board can actually hold more weight than the Japanese (150kg vs. 136kg) [http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/02/20/wii-ware-and-wii-fit-dated-for-may/]. No word yet on the American Balance Board, but I would presume that there will be a difference as well. However, other than the max weight-loads for the boards, the boards should be inter-compatible just as Wiimotes are since the wireless functionality is the same. -[[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 17:19, 20 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== "the game in the fishing hut"'s predecessor == |
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I believe that instead of using that phrase, we should say it's similar to the game of Labyrinth, where one takes a metal ball, and tilts a board using two dials to guide the ball through a course littered with numbered holes (dictating your score, but usually playing 1-player, it doesn't ''really'' matter.) and a finish marking at the end. This puzzle/game has been used in several games as mini-game fodder, web-games, etc, including the afforementioned fishing hut game, which no-one (myself included) remembers the name it was given. [[user:bubacxo|Bubacxo]] 13:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Wii Fit not included in NPD sales figures? == |
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Hi, I read on GoNintendo.com that Wii Fit's sales won't be tracked by NPD, is this true and if so should it be mentioned somewhere in the article? If it is true, this could set a precendent for future exercise style titles (and possibly existing Brain training titles). (Daft_Ada) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/212.64.224.250|212.64.224.250]] ([[User talk:212.64.224.250|talk]]) 15:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Wii Fit Price == |
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Is there an official price for Wii Fit? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.145.80.167|69.145.80.167]] ([[User talk:69.145.80.167|talk]]) 22:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Nintendo announced today Wii Fit will sell for $89.99. [[User:Versus22|Vernon (Versus22)]] ([[User talk:Versus22#top|talk]]) 14:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== weight limit? == |
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Does the balance board have a weight limit? [[Special:Contributions/76.122.72.246|76.122.72.246]] ([[User talk:76.122.72.246|talk]]) 03:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC) |
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I believe it is 150kgs but i'm not 100% sure I read it on the display box in a store.[[User:Harryngo|Harryngo]] ([[User talk:Harryngo|talk]]) 11:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC) |
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I forgot to state this but this is in australia. [[User:Harryngo|Harryngo]] ([[User talk:Harryngo|talk]]) 11:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC) |
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330 lb weight limit. |
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== Full list of activities == |
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Would be quite interested to know other ediotrs' opinions on [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wii_Fit&diff=209500656&oldid=209499127 this]. [[User:Geoff B|Geoff B]] ([[User talk:Geoff B|talk]]) 18:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:I am a bit puzzled why my Wii Fit activities edit was reverted. |
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this was incomplete and inacurate based on the games pre-release information. I now have the game and it is good to let people know what is in the package. |
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Would have been nice to have more explanation for reverting [[Help:Reverting#Rollback]]- Politeness is needed - as this avoids edit wars and discourages new editors |
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It was not a game guide [[WP:NOTMANUAL]] - ie how to play nor was it an extensive list. Being an owner it is however accurate. |
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As for not needing a list of every game activity is concerned - there are plenty of exeptions to this |
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[[Wii Play]] for example |
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on a personal note - When I was wondering if to purchase a wii fit I wondered what activities were available. |
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a small list of the games is helpful |
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I am sorry I used the wrong forum for discussion . I am a new editor <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Williamb40|Williamb40]] ([[User talk:Williamb40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Williamb40|contribs]]) 18:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:To me, it just seems an arbitrary extension of a short, acceptable list. If you list all the balance games, why not then list all the yoga poses, all the muscle workouts, etc? As for other articles including long lists, there are plenty of other articles with original research in them, that doesn't justify including it in this one. Possible purchasers of ''Wii Fit'' make up a small percentage of the total readers of the article, and a full list is only of interest to them. [[User:Geoff B|Geoff B]] ([[User talk:Geoff B|talk]]) |
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::It's not as if each added game mode is the same as a yoga pose. Create one section describing some of the yoga, some of the exercises, and another section for the game modes. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 18:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::: I understand your point ''geoffb'' about yoga and muscle. I did consider adding a list of these games but they are all very similar. The Balance and Aerobic sections have games which are different. the original list did not include many of the interesting games such as [[Zazen]] it is good to point out this game in particular as it is has references in game history that I tried to include... Lets keep talking <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Williamb40|Williamb40]] ([[User talk:Williamb40|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Williamb40|contribs]]) 18:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::I think showing all of the yoga ativities like this is over the top (It takes up too much space) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.44.203.252|82.44.203.252]] ([[User talk:82.44.203.252|talk]]) 16:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Gimmick? == |
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This may just be me, but opening the article by calling the game a "gimmick" seems a little harsh... [[Special:Contributions/74.227.52.50|74.227.52.50]] ([[User talk:74.227.52.50|talk]]) 10:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:And POV [[User:JayKeaton|JayKeaton]] ([[User talk:JayKeaton|talk]]) 22:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC) |
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==Confusion on the Release Date== |
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It would appear that some anxious Wii fans are in a hurry to get this game. Although Nintendo will sale it at the New York Nintendo World Store on May 19th, it is not the actual release date, the actual release date is when it goes on sale across North America which is May 21th. Just like a sneak peak at a movie is NOT the actual starting date for showing a movie, having the Nintendo World Store selling Wii Fit 2 days in advance does NOT make it the actual release date. |
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[[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 17:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Having Problems Finding Wii Fit in Stores Today (May 19th)? == |
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Well maybe it's because THE GAME IS NOT OUT YET!!!! Told you, unless you can make it to the '''Nintendo World Store in New York''', you're not getting this game until the 21th which is the actual Street Date of Wii Fit. Oh before you even post it, I don't give a crap about any Wikipedia rules I just broke with this post, I have earned the bragging rights after editing this page for 2 days only to have it reverted by Nintendo fanboys with delusions that they could go to their local game store on the 19th and get this game. [[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 13:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:If you actually provided a source like [http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/template.NDM/news/more/?javax.portlet.tpst=0b2c9a4dd5f89b80977dd367cc87b42f_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_0b2c9a4dd5f89b80977dd367cc87b42f_viewID=news_view_popup&javax.portlet.prp_0b2c9a4dd5f89b80977dd367cc87b42f_newsLang=en&javax.portlet.prp_0b2c9a4dd5f89b80977dd367cc87b42f_newsId=20080519005400 this], you could've actually made a much better case than you had been, and encountered less resistance. Being right matters little here if you don't [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verify it]], whether it is article information or editor conduct. I myself will None of your previous edits actually showed that the Nintendo World Store launch was treated as an exclusive, and the edits actually could have been considered [[WP:SYN|original research]]. As I mentioned in my unanswered comment above, what matters is the date Nintendo advertises, regardless of whether it's a street date. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] ([[User talk:Dancter|talk]]) 16:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Providing sources obviously means squat since people edited my last one anyway: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wii_Fit&diff=213363221&oldid=213361818 Old Version] Only reason why the proper date is now showing is because people just realized that their local EB Games and Wal-Mart won't sale it to them until the 21th. I provided them with enough sources, but they refused to read/believe and now they're being punished for being hard headed.[[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 17:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::As you said yourself, you can get the game at the Nintendo World Store - thus the game was released today (even if it is not widely available). Either way though, bragging on here just makes you look like a total idiot and will only cause people to lose respect for you as an editor. -[[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 17:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::::I, they did release it today, but when talking about releasing something in a region, that release can't be limited to one area only. What Nintendo did was a sneak peak or exclusivity if you will, that cannot be accounted for an actual release date, if anything, it's cheating. As for the respect part, don't make laugh, there's no respect to gain here or on any place on the Internet. I don't expect respect from my DVD player or electric drill for the same reason I don't expect it from the Internet, because this cybertool is exactly what the name states it is, a tool. [[User:Duhman0009|Duhman0009]] ([[User talk:Duhman0009|talk]]) 17:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Per the guideline, "For unreleased games, vendor sites should '''not''' be used as verifiable sources since their date is likely based on their best estimate of when the game is to be out; always look for corroborating statements from reliable sources to confirm these dates." All the sources you used were vendor sites. Also, I never claimed that May 21 wasn't the in-store date, and did not use that as a basis for my argument. [[User:Dancter|Dancter]] ([[User talk:Dancter|talk]]) 10:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC) |
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How about instead of getting into a pissing contest between who is right, we put a blurb about being officially released on 5/19 but not in stores until 5/21? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/12.16.140.3|12.16.140.3]] ([[User talk:12.16.140.3|talk]]) 18:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Sales in Australia == |
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After only 3 days of release, Wii Fit was able to beat out both PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of GTA IV and thus became the top-selling game across all platforms in Australia in the week ending 11th May. http://www.palgn.com.au/article.php?id=11516 is the source. Can someone edit this into the Sales section of the article? Thanks. '''~~ [[User:Gromreaper|<font color="SteelBlue">Gromreaper</font>]]'''<sup>'''[[User talk:Gromreaper|<font color="MediumAquamarine">(Talk)</font>]]'''</sup>/<sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Gromreaper|<font color="Indigo">(Cont)</font>]]'''</sub> 05:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Unfortunately, I don't think it is notable enough for two main reasons. 1) No specific sales figures were mentioned. 2) GTAIV was released before Wii Fit, so sales have probably dropped a little from its first week. Glad to hear it is selling so well though! -[[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 05:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Removed Criticism Section Pertaing to BMI Complaints == |
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The criticism should be included on the BMI page. BMI is simply weight divided by height squared. Wii Fit is using a simple and crude metric that most health professionals use (BMI). The limitations of BMI calculations should be posted on a BMI page, not Wii Fit's. Had Nintendo invented the BMI calculation for Wii Fit, I would agree to that criticism being posted here, but they didn't. The BMI page explains all of this in the "Limitations and Shortcomings" section. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.219.163.119|64.219.163.119]] ([[User talk:64.219.163.119|talk]]) 15:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== To who ever reposts the BMI Criticism == |
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The BMI criticisim should be placed on BMI's wiki page. There are legit problems with BMI, and they are already on the BMI page. The Wii Fit page should pertain to wii fit, not your personal problem with the flaws of BMI measurments. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.219.163.119|64.219.163.119]] ([[User talk:64.219.163.119|talk]]) 16:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:The criticism is about Wii Fit's reliance on BMI as a measurement of health, hence it is totally appropriate to the game article. It has also been widely reported by numerous news organizations. I'm adding it back in. [[User:Richiekim|Richiekim]] ([[User talk:Richiekim|talk]]) 17:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:: I think it does need to be mentioned, but the current form, including placing within a specific criticism section, gives it undue prominence. I don't think this really deserves more than a single sentence really, and will edit it thusly tomorrow (assuming no further comment). --[[User:NeilTarrant|Neil]] ([[User talk:NeilTarrant|talk]]) 20:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Imperial/Metric == |
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It says in the UK, if you chose the UK,it will use the Imperial System, but, why would it do this? British use the Metric system, not Imperial. I am going to change it to say the American, as I know they use the Imperial. [[Special:Contributions/72.138.216.89|72.138.216.89]] ([[User talk:72.138.216.89|talk]]) 11:31, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Opps, nevermind, its Euro edition. But the British dont use Imperial, so wtf? [[Special:Contributions/72.138.216.89|72.138.216.89]] ([[User talk:72.138.216.89|talk]]) 11:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::Are you sure they don't use the Imperial system for weight and height? I know Canadians use the metric system for everything, but then proceed to use pounds and feet/inches for height and weight. -[[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 15:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::We use Metric for general stuff like weighing food, etc. and Imperial for things like height and weight. [[User:EvilRedEye|EvilRedEye]] ([[User talk:EvilRedEye|talk]]) 15:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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::::I added that section based on playing the game :: smile :: I'd argue that 'we' don't necessarily use anything - different people use different units for different purposes. I personally visualise weights and heights in metric, and I know that some people will still use Imperial for recipes. It would interesting (to me) and probably relevant to the article to know how the scales are calibrated for other reasons which use Imperial/Metric units more or less (i.e. in the US I'd guess weight is calibrated in lbs, and height in feet/inches, what about Canada, and I have no idea about Japan!) --[[User:NeilTarrant|Neil]] ([[User talk:NeilTarrant|talk]]) 17:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::The game uses lbs/ft-in in Canada. -[[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 03:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::Exactly, most countries use Metric, its standard, its taught first in Schools, but when you talk about weight or height, its usually in Imperial because it makes more sense. It eaiser to say someone is 6', then to say they are 1.8 metres. I just brought it up because I used to live there for like 3 years before moving to Canada, and my parents told me that Britain uses the Metric, but most people in the said countries will refer to common stuff in Imperial, but distance in metric lol.[[Special:Contributions/72.138.216.89|72.138.216.89]] ([[User talk:72.138.216.89|talk]]) 20:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Canada 'officially' uses Metric (check your height on your driver's licence) but people unofficially use imperial for height and weight. --[[User:Thaddius|Thaddius]] ([[User talk:Thaddius|talk]]) 16:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Logo or boxart == |
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As I understand it, WP:VG is pretty clear about using boxart (for which there is a template fair use rationale available) instead of a logo. This is for copyright reasons, as well as consistency. However, someone recently replaced the boxart that's in place (which was discussed previously on this talk page) with the Wii Fit logo. Is there a particular reason for this? [[User:Xevious|Tim (Xevious)]] ([[User talk:Xevious|talk]]) 09:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Reception == |
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There has been inclusion of terminology along the lines of "this game has garnered mostly positive reviews". The sentence may be simple, but it comes off as a little NPOV. The fact is, basically the ''highest'' reviews are 80/100, and there are some legit reviews that rate the game much lower. Now I'm not here to judge the merits of the game, but the way I look at it is that Wii Fit basically falls right into the middle of the average reviewed game. I don't feel like we need to say "average" or "moderate" reviews, but rather eliminate any intro sentence trying to sum it up and letting the numbers/reviews speak for themselves. [[User:Gwynand|Gwynand]] | [[User_talk:Gwynand|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Gwynand|Contribs]] 12:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Well, the gamerankings average is 80% on the game. I think it's kind of odd that a game that's at 80% is full of just negative criticisms. There seem to be a lot of 'some say it's ok, BUT' going on. --[[User:Thaddius|Thaddius]] ([[User talk:Thaddius|talk]]) 16:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Right, and I think that's why I think it's wrong to have a sweeping statement about the games positive reviews. Reading any of the reviews, its really far from "generally positive". [[User:Gwynand|Gwynand]] | [[User_talk:Gwynand|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Gwynand|Contribs]] 17:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Stones or stone? == |
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Ran out of room on the edit summary! I added a bit to [[stone (mass)]], but basically, it's only "stone" if you're using it as the index unit - so saying "3 stone"; "he weighs 15 stone"; "she lost 2 stone". If you're describing the units themselves, then it's "stones" - "What unit should I use? Stones"; "Common units are kilograms, stones and tonnes". [[User:Xevious|Tim (Xevious)]] ([[User talk:Xevious|talk]]) 12:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Honestly, if this might be a more confusing term, it could probably be removed. We don't need to have a specific mention of "stone" or "stones" in this article. [[User:Gwynand|Gwynand]] | [[User_talk:Gwynand|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Gwynand|Contribs]] 12:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== US Sales - Michael Pachter == |
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This part here seems to state a fact that Nintendo has sent 2 million to europe and only 500000 to north america. However, this is only an ESTIMATE by Michael Pachter. Someone should change the wording. Anyone agree/disagree? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.74.194.4|76.74.194.4]] ([[User talk:76.74.194.4|talk]]) 04:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Agreed - thanks for pointing that out. I reworded it. - [[User:Zomic13|Zomic13]] ([[User talk:Zomic13|talk]]) 04:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Agree here as well, good catch. [[User:Gwynand|Gwynand]] | [[User_talk:Gwynand|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Gwynand|Contribs]] 13:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Need for console == |
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Seeing as someone has a bee in their bonnet about this, we perhaps ought to have comment on why the need for a console is irrelevant to the article.<BR> |
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i) It is not standard on other console game pages list the need for a console.<BR> |
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ii) The fact that it is a game for the Wii system is already included in the info-box (and indeed in the first sentence).<BR> |
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iii) Even if the advertisements don't make the need for a console clear in your opinion, they are not our responsibility, nor is it our responsibility to correct any misimpression which may have been received. Again if store assistants don't know, they are not our responsibility. Additionally even if these are the case, the need for a console is listed on the box-art (at least in Europe)<BR> |
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Please respond here before editing the article again. Where something is controversial it is appropriate to take it to a talk-page. --[[User:NeilTarrant|Neil]] ([[User talk:NeilTarrant|talk]]) 21:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:i can't believe people are actually bothering about this!! i mean, the NAME gives it away, that a Wii is needed, it's the same with wii play, wii sports, etc. if a wii wasn't needed, it would have just been called "fit". can't believe some people are so thick! store assistants don't even know?? how did they manage to get their job?!! you see some weird things in this world.[[Special:Contributions/77.101.18.129|77.101.18.129]] ([[User talk:77.101.18.129|talk]]) 22:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==Wii Sports Miis== |
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The Miis from [[Wii sports]] appear in this game, shouldn't their be something that says so in the article? [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 12:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:There is, it's in the intro. [[User:Gwynand|Gwynand]] | [[User_talk:Gwynand|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Gwynand|Contribs]] 12:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Units Question == |
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the Units section is quite non-understandable. how exactly do people change the units in Wii Fit? I have the NTSC version and it didn't change (at least on english) even when i switched countries. please fix it to a more understandable version. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.130.164.188|83.130.164.188]] ([[User talk:83.130.164.188|talk]]) 10:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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*ok my bad its better now just wanted to know if anyone did change localisation and it helped? |
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Game Play and Development
[edit]The list of activites in Gameplay seems to be quite large and with a lot of white space. I think that they should be reformatted into some form of a table or into a collapsable list in order to appear tidier. Here is a subsection of the table I quickly put together (the rest of it is commented out for clarity), if it looks good to add:
Yoga | Strength Training | Aerobics | Balance Games |
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Deep Breathing | Single Leg Extension | Hula Hoop | Soccer Heading |
Half-Moon | Sideways Leg Lift | Super Hula Hoop | Ski Jump |
I also personally think that the development section is lacking, focusing too much on MIyamoto's initial design and too little on the actual development. I think that the Iwata Asks interviews would be incorporated, as they are rich in detail. I have the link to first volume, but references should be created when they are actually used, and I suggest with <ref name="iwata_volX_Y">
, where X is the volume number and Y is the page number.
--ThomasO1989 (talk) 00:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Wii Fit Plus into Wii Fit
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I don't think Wii Fit Plus is notable enough to warrant its own article, especially since the lead of its article states that "the game is an enhanced version of Wii Fit." Aside from some new minigames, activities, and features, it is fundamentally the same game. I liken it to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, which is basically an enhanced version of Mario Kart 8; a discussion in January 2022 on merging the articles of those two games found unanimous support. SmartAn01 (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support Merge - If this had WP:SIGCOV to merit its own spinout article I could see it having merit. As I understand it this is essentially Wii Fit 1.5, and it didn't exactly like the journalistic world on fire, so there's not coverage enough to support something standalone when this could easily be merged. --Teancum (talk)