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Balanced view

I reverted some presumably good intentioned edit by user:Honestjeff who primarily deleted any negative information about the Chicago bid. I believe the goal of this page is to present information, both the positive and negative, about the bids (as long as they are sourced), regardless of where a person is rooting for. If others disagree, please let me know. Thanks--Cbradshaw (talk) 06:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also must mention that marking deletions of 500 bytes as a "minor" edit is not honest, but perhaps it was a newbie mistake?--Cbradshaw (talk) 06:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Azerbaijan Europe not Asia

The IOC lists the NOC of Azerbaijan in the EOC (Europe) and not in the OCA (Asia). This needs to be fixed. I would fix it, but i'm not to good with the editing of wikipedia. So yeah, it would be good if someone could change it.The sound (talk) 10:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Table layout

What is the point of the odd table layout for applicant cities? It does not seem to add anything and complicates editing and navigation (it would make more sense for each city to be a sub-section). Pimlottc (talk) 14:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, I believe it made more sense when the cities had their logos as well, until they were all deleted. However, other similar pages all have these tables, so it may not be worth the trouble of reformatting all the pages (to remain consistant). At least, I don't think I'm going to do it. :)--Cbradshaw (talk) 16:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A note on the tables. I feel like they are nice, but with so many cities here, it is not aesthetically pleasing to have such a long article full of tables. Please refer to 2012 Summer Olympics bids for an example of how each city can have its own subsection. It makes more sense to have them not in tables, and so I would encourage the user who reverted my edit to rethink this. Tables are really only meant to show small groups of things, and thus as you can see on the featured bids page, it is used sparingly. Jared (t) 18:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doha & Rio de Janeiro

It says that the four highest rated cities were chosen as finalists, but according to the article, Doha, a failed bid, is given a higher rating than Rio de Janeiro, a successful bid. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taken care of. ThanksCbradshaw (talk) 15:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Candidate cities overview

The section for Chicago states "By 2016, the Summer Olympics will have not been held in the Americas for twenty years", which gives the impression (at least to me) that this is a significantly long gap between games, however it is almost unprecedented for the games to be held in the same country only 20 years apart (in fact the games in question was the Atlanta 96 games referenced in this section). Perhaps this can be re-worded to avoid giving the wrong impression. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.229.37 (talk) 15:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed "20 years" because yes, I agree, it does give an impression that it had been really that long when the Americas last hosted the Olympics. Xeltran (talk) 15:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

inconsistancy in chicago score

this page states 7.0, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics states it is 8.5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_2016_Olympic_bid claims it is 7.0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.255.251 (talk) 05:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, the score is 7.0. Vandals keep changing it.-Cbradshaw (talk) 05:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing it directly at that point in the article will make it easier to detect the misinformation. - PhilipR (talk) 03:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WC 2014

An anonymous editor just added a sentence about the 2014 WC hurting Rio's chances. This seems unfounded; as Rio de Janeiro 2016 Olympic bid points out:

Brazil will host the 2014 World Cup, could make the fourth double hosting in history; after Mexico in 1968 and 1970, Germany in 1972 and 1974, and the United States in 1994 and 1996.

Therefore, I have a strong prejudice toward removing this statement if it's not sourced pretty soon. Cheers, PhilipR (talk) 02:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On this page (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article6858138.ece) the following statement is written: "Many IOC members are worried about delivery and the fact the 2014 World Cup will suck up resources, leaving the Olympics an afterthought. Rio officials would rather think of the football as the ultimate test event - that addresses the issue of airports and roads but what about the venues? You can't row on a footy pitch. Will the artists' impressions of sparkling new Olympic venues convince?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.198.54.241 (talk) 15:19, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arranged ordering of the Bids

I've arranged the ordering of the bids with the highest scored first. It seems to make the most sense if you ask me. An alternative would be alphabetical, but raw score is probably the most relevant at this moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.239.26 (talk) 20:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Time of announcement

I was watching at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/CBS-News , and the time on the chat room showed the actual announcement at 12:50pm Eastern Daylight Time, so the time zones would be on the :50, not :30. MMetro (talk) 17:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is the exact time of the announcement even needed? Seems like a pretty unnecessary detail, IMO. --Torsodog^Talk 18:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hell if I know, but if someone puts it on Wikipedia, it had better be correct. MMetro (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, it has to be in UTC, or CEST in Copenhagen, where the announcement is made. Never be in Eastern Daylight Time.--Belle Equipe (talk) 19:28, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not never, if Eastern is the local time zone. I wasn't going to calculate the UTC or CEST, but a :50 never translates to a :30, and somebody might appreciate the accuracy. MMetro (talk) 22:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even though your source shows the time by EDT, that time zone has nothing to do with the IOC meeting. Time has to be shown on Wiki pages basically by UTC, unless events or incidents occured in certain time zone. The URL you quoted is merely a quotation, not the location where the event occured.--Belle Equipe (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

remove this section? Predicting indices

This is just using someone's predictions. Why not use Wikipedian's predictions? The rest of the article is find. Remove the Predicting indices section? President of Chicago (talk) 05:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't use Wikipedians' predictions because they can't be sourced. These indices are from two sourced sites that have some knowledge of the system and can be considered experts.

However, now that the selection is made, a short rewrite summarizing the predictions with the actual results may be in order. Hopefully, those two sites will write an article which we can reference.Cbradshaw (talk) 05:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Reference #4 reads "shit list" when it should read "short list" but I cannot find a way to correct this.

Corrected.--Oleksandr Tahayev (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==Balanced view==
 I reverted some presumably good intentioned edit by [[user:Honestjeff]] who primarily deleted any negative information about the Chicago bid.  I believe the goal of this page is to present information, both the positive and negative, about the bids (as long as they are sourced), regardless of where a person is rooting for.  If others disagree, please let me know.  Thanks--[[User:Cbradshaw|Cbradshaw]] ([[User talk:Cbradshaw|talk]]) 06:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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 : Hmmm, I believe it made more sense when the cities had their logos as well, until they were all deleted.  However, other similar pages all have these tables, so it may not be worth the trouble of reformatting all the pages (to remain consistant).  At least, I don't think I'm going to do it. :)--[[User:Cbradshaw|Cbradshaw]] ([[User talk:Cbradshaw|talk]]) 16:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
-A note on the tables. I feel like they are nice, but with so many cities here, it is not aesthetically pleasing to have such a long article full of tables. Please refer to [[2012 Summer Olympics bids]] for an example of how each city can have its own subsection. It makes more sense to have them not in tables, and so I would encourage the user who reverted my edit to rethink this. Tables are really only meant to show small groups of things, and thus as you can see on the featured bids page, it is used sparingly. [[User:Jared|<font color="#0084C9">Jared</font>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Jared|<font color="#009E49">(''t'')</font>]]</small>&ensp; 18:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
+A note on the tables. I feel like they are nice, but with so many cities here, it is not aesthetically pleasing to have such a long article full of tables. Please refer to [[2012 Summer Olympics bids]] for an example of how each city can have its own subsection. It makes more sense to have them not in tables, and so I would encourage the user who reverted my edit to rethink this. Tables are really only meant to show small groups of things, and thus as you can see on the featured bids page, it is used sparingly. [[User:Jared|<span style="color:#0084C9;">Jared</span>]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Jared|<span style="color:#009E49;">(''t'')</span>]]</small>&ensp; 18:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
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-I was watching at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/CBS-News , and the time on the chat room showed the actual announcement at 12:50pm Eastern Daylight Time. [[User:MMetro|MMetro]] ([[User talk:MMetro|talk]]) 17:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
+I was watching at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/CBS-News , and the time on the chat room showed the actual announcement at 12:50pm Eastern Daylight Time, so the time zones would be on the :50, not :30. [[User:MMetro|MMetro]] ([[User talk:MMetro|talk]]) 17:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
+:Is the exact time of the announcement even needed? Seems like a pretty unnecessary detail, IMO. --[[User:Torsodog|<span style="color:#000000;">'''T'''</span><span style="color:#993300;">orsodo</span><span style="color:#000000;">'''g'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Torsodog|Talk]]</sup> 18:23, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
+::Hell if I know, but if someone puts it on Wikipedia, it had better be correct. [[User:MMetro|MMetro]] ([[User talk:MMetro|talk]]) 00:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
+:::In any case, it has to be in UTC, or [[Central European Summer Time|CEST]] in Copenhagen, where the announcement is made. Never be in Eastern Daylight Time.--[[User:Belle Equipe|Belle Equipe]] ([[User talk:Belle Equipe|talk]]) 19:28, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
+::::Not never, if Eastern is the local time zone. I wasn't going to calculate the UTC or CEST, but a :50 never translates to a :30, and somebody might appreciate the accuracy. [[User:MMetro|MMetro]] ([[User talk:MMetro|talk]]) 22:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
+:::::Even though your source shows the time by EDT, that time zone has nothing to do with the IOC meeting. Time has to be shown on Wiki pages basically by UTC, unless events or incidents occured in certain time zone. The URL you quoted is merely a quotation, not the location where the event occured.--[[User:Belle Equipe|Belle Equipe]] ([[User talk:Belle Equipe|talk]]) 16:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
+== remove this section? Predicting indices ==
+This is just using someone's predictions.  Why not use Wikipedian's predictions?  The rest of the article is find.  Remove the Predicting indices section? [[User:President of Chicago|President of Chicago]] ([[User talk:President of Chicago|talk]]) 05:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
+:Can't use Wikipedians' predictions because they can't be sourced.  These indices are from two sourced sites that have some knowledge of the system and can be considered experts.
+:However, now that the selection is made, a short rewrite summarizing the predictions with the actual results may be in order. Hopefully, those two sites will write an article which we can reference.[[User:Cbradshaw|Cbradshaw]] ([[User talk:Cbradshaw|talk]]) 05:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
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