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That's quite a big block of text under ''plot''. I suspect it's the plot of more than one of the books in the series, in which case those parts of the story should be put into other articles, or at least separated out a little. That's ''if'' it isn't the plot from one book alone. [[User:Sheridan|sheridan]] 22:27, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)
That's quite a big block of text under ''plot''. I suspect it's the plot of more than one of the books in the series, in which case those parts of the story should be put into other articles, or at least separated out a little. That's ''if'' it isn't the plot from one book alone. [[User:Sheridan|sheridan]] 22:27, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)

Someone has removed almost all of the plot, leaving very little. I've added a basic plot description which shouldn't cause debate or concern. [[User:Htcs|Htcs]] ([[User talk:Htcs|talk]]) 15:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


== Synopses ==
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:Yes, I have removed them, and provided a link to the edit page for each. Probably not the correct wikipedia format for doing so, but better than violating copyright laws. --[[User:Milton Stanley|Milton]] 01:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, I have removed them, and provided a link to the edit page for each. Probably not the correct wikipedia format for doing so, but better than violating copyright laws. --[[User:Milton Stanley|Milton]] 01:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have since deleted the entire plot section, because most of it looks like copyright violations. --[[User:Milton Stanley|Milton]] 02:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have since deleted the entire plot section, because most of it looks like copyright violations. --[[User:Milton Stanley|Milton]] 02:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
:Well, as of right now there is a plot summary section, someone must have added it since. What gets me, though, is that the plot summary only seems to cover the first half or so of the actual story, making it look very unprofessional to anyone who has read the book. Maybe someone should fix it up? <span style="color:Green;">- </span>[[User:Green_meklar|<span style="color:Green;"><b>green_meklar</b></span>]] 03:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:: Okay, threw in the rest of the plot. It's pretty darn huge but mostly sticks to the level of detail of the first part that was already there. Let the editing and excising commence. :) [[User:Ozlucien|Ozlucien]] ([[User talk:Ozlucien|talk]]) 04:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== Infobox ==

I added it because the cleanup requires it...most of the information I have is from my copy of the book, which has the original artwork and all, so I'm not sure if we should request the original cover image rights from ibooks to make all of the info mesh right, or get the info for the current picture.
--[[User:Johnska7|<span style="padding: 2pt; font-weight: bold; background:#0000FF; color:#FF9933;">JohnSka7</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Johnska7|t]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Johnska7|c]] </sub> 15:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Name of the ship ==
The article uses ''Christine Keeler'' as the name of the ship Bill is assigned to, but my copy of the book (Victor Gollancz Ltd, 1991) introduces the dreadnought as follows:
<blockquote>
"Welcome aboard the ''Fanny Hill''," he said and with a friendly shake splintered most of Bill's knuckle bones. "The grand old lady of this fleet, commissioned almost a week ago. I'm the Reverend Fusetender Sixth Class Tembo, and I see by the stencil on your bag that your name is Bill, and since we're shipmates, Bill, please call me Tembo, and how is the condition of your soul?"
</blockquote>
This is of course a British version, so did the name change from the American original or did the VGSF version (first printed 1990) dispense with Christine Keeler as being less known by then?
[[User:Spuddiwinks|Spuddiwinks]] ([[User talk:Spuddiwinks|talk]]) 02:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Galaxy Magazine? ==

I swear I read most of Bill's story as a novella in an issue of ''Galaxy'' magazine when I was twelve or so, which would be 1962. It did not go by that name and consisted of parts 1 and 3 of the novel, sticking with his military misadventures and eliding his tours as a trash man and revolutionary double agent. Unfortunately, as so often happens, my Mom threw the magazine out when I was in the Navy (I thought of Bill a lot during my stint there) and I was delighted to find years later, the story as a book (the sequels not so much).

Anyway, after all that blather, I'm not finding any evidence of this here or anywhere else online. isfdb ''does'' mention the whole thing being printed in three issues of ''New Worlds'' magazine, in 1965 but that's British and I'm sure I had no way of buying a British science fiction magazine as a kid in Nowhere, Arizona. [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?28 isfdb.com]

So, can anyone corroborate my remembrance or have I gone mad?
[[User:Yatagerasu|Yatagerasu]] ([[User talk:Yatagerasu|talk]]) 00:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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That's quite a big block of text under plot. I suspect it's the plot of more than one of the books in the series, in which case those parts of the story should be put into other articles, or at least separated out a little. That's if it isn't the plot from one book alone. sheridan 22:27, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)

Someone has removed almost all of the plot, leaving very little. I've added a basic plot description which shouldn't cause debate or concern. Htcs (talk) 15:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Synopses

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.... are just lifted from the book jackets :)FSharpMajor 08:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have removed them, and provided a link to the edit page for each. Probably not the correct wikipedia format for doing so, but better than violating copyright laws. --Milton 01:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have since deleted the entire plot section, because most of it looks like copyright violations. --Milton 02:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as of right now there is a plot summary section, someone must have added it since. What gets me, though, is that the plot summary only seems to cover the first half or so of the actual story, making it look very unprofessional to anyone who has read the book. Maybe someone should fix it up? - green_meklar 03:50, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, threw in the rest of the plot. It's pretty darn huge but mostly sticks to the level of detail of the first part that was already there. Let the editing and excising commence. :) Ozlucien (talk) 04:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

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I added it because the cleanup requires it...most of the information I have is from my copy of the book, which has the original artwork and all, so I'm not sure if we should request the original cover image rights from ibooks to make all of the info mesh right, or get the info for the current picture. --JohnSka7 t/c 15:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the ship

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The article uses Christine Keeler as the name of the ship Bill is assigned to, but my copy of the book (Victor Gollancz Ltd, 1991) introduces the dreadnought as follows:

"Welcome aboard the Fanny Hill," he said and with a friendly shake splintered most of Bill's knuckle bones. "The grand old lady of this fleet, commissioned almost a week ago. I'm the Reverend Fusetender Sixth Class Tembo, and I see by the stencil on your bag that your name is Bill, and since we're shipmates, Bill, please call me Tembo, and how is the condition of your soul?"

This is of course a British version, so did the name change from the American original or did the VGSF version (first printed 1990) dispense with Christine Keeler as being less known by then? Spuddiwinks (talk) 02:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Galaxy Magazine?

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I swear I read most of Bill's story as a novella in an issue of Galaxy magazine when I was twelve or so, which would be 1962. It did not go by that name and consisted of parts 1 and 3 of the novel, sticking with his military misadventures and eliding his tours as a trash man and revolutionary double agent. Unfortunately, as so often happens, my Mom threw the magazine out when I was in the Navy (I thought of Bill a lot during my stint there) and I was delighted to find years later, the story as a book (the sequels not so much).

Anyway, after all that blather, I'm not finding any evidence of this here or anywhere else online. isfdb does mention the whole thing being printed in three issues of New Worlds magazine, in 1965 but that's British and I'm sure I had no way of buying a British science fiction magazine as a kid in Nowhere, Arizona. isfdb.com

So, can anyone corroborate my remembrance or have I gone mad? Yatagerasu (talk) 00:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]