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⚫ | I'm unsure why this is listed and why it links only to the Creative Cloud article. Details of actual controversy and criticism are here [[Adobe Systems#Source code and customer data breach]] and here [[Adobe Systems#Criticism of Creative Cloud]]. Would it not be better to link directly to one or both? |
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The article is incorrect. Adobe Acrobat and Reader XI (11) is ''not'' supported on Windows Vista, despite being supported on Windows XP, 2003 R2, 2008, 2008 R2, 7, and 8. [http://www.adobe.com/products/reader/tech-specs.html] |
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[[Special:Contributions/180.246.195.73|180.246.195.73]] ([[User talk:180.246.195.73|talk]]) 16:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}} -[[User:Nathan Johnson|Nathan Johnson]] ([[User talk:Nathan Johnson|talk]]) 21:47, 27 October 2012 (UTC) |
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I have no idea what this incident is about, but as the paragraph stands now it seems to have nothing to do with Acrobat. Remove or change? [[Special:Contributions/192.51.44.14|192.51.44.14]] ([[User talk:192.51.44.14|talk]]) 05:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC) |
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== Nothing about Adobe charging for Acrobat Reader == |
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How come there is nothing in this article about Adobe's attempts to force Acrobat users to pay for the "free" software. With at least 2 releases (1 I believe in the 1990s, the 2nd in the early 2000s), Adobe who had hooked users into using their product against competing versions of "document readers", tried to charge users for various application uses of Acrobat Reader, such as printing or saving a document. If you wanted to save you could only do so, if you bought the product. It was the same for printing. However, Adobe (with a history of this kind of behavior since their inception) received a number of complaints, particularly from corporate IT users, and removed the limitations. But this should absolutely be included here as part of the Acrobat Reader history and should undoubtedly be included in Adobe's corporate history as well... [[User:Stevenmitchell|Stevenmitchell]] ([[User talk:Stevenmitchell|talk]]) 08:16, 7 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Hi. May I see your source please? Oh, and by the way, what is "Acrobat Reader"? We have "Acrobat" and we have "Reader", but that? Best regards, [[User:Codename Lisa|Codename Lisa]] ([[User talk:Codename Lisa|talk]]) 23:52, 8 August 2013 (UTC) |
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I have found slight plagiarism in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Acrobat#Security !!! Check it out. [[User:Jordf32123|Jordf32123]] ([[User talk:Jordf32123|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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What is the difference between Acrobat and [[Microsoft Word]]? Or is the difference between [[pdf]] and the Word document format? On ''Word'' it states it is a [[word processor]], isn't Adobe Acrobat one too? What are the real differences that don't make Adobe Acrobat a word processor, because i don't see it mentioned anywhere in the article? --[[User:Alien4|Alien4]] ([[User talk:Alien4|talk]]) 14:02, 9 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== free software equivalent to adobe reader == |
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May somebody tell me an equivalent of adobe reader free as in "free software", in order to I precise it in the Article ? [[Special:Contributions/2A01:CB0C:38C:9F00:31CD:9270:5879:5FE6|2A01:CB0C:38C:9F00:31CD:9270:5879:5FE6]] ([[User talk:2A01:CB0C:38C:9F00:31CD:9270:5879:5FE6|talk]]) 16:56, 6 September 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[Foxit Reader]] is an excellent freeware alternative. But the info you are suggesting to add might be better to include in the [[List of PDF software]] article. There is also a portable version of Foxit PDF Reader which works quite well (although the latest portable version seems to have broken the Text-To-Speech feature, whereas it had worked extremely well in older versions). -- [[User:Concord19|Concord19]] ([[User talk:Concord19|talk]]) 22:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I'm unsure why this is listed and why it links only to the Creative Cloud article. Details of actual controversy and criticism are here [[Adobe Systems#Source code and customer data breach]] and here [[Adobe Systems#Criticism of Creative Cloud]]. Would it not be better to link directly to one or both? |
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== Linux? == |
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The mention of a Linux download appears to be out of date, as the urls given are either not found, or do not list Linux. I vaguely recall hearing something about Adobe dropping a Linux version; that should be found and cited, and the out of date content removed. ♦ [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 23:23, 5 December 2019 (UTC) |
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== Limitations == |
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I think the following statements in the Purpose section are not completely true: |
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* "Because of the nature of the PDF, however, once a PDF document is created, its natural organization and flow cannot be meaningfully modified. In other words, Adobe Acrobat is able to modify the contents of paragraphs and images, but doing so does not repaginate the whole document to accommodate for a longer or shorter document. Acrobat can crop PDF pages (...)" |
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It may be true for older versions (before 9), but the order of paragraphs or other elements ''can'' be changed, just by dragging them over the page or by cut-and-paste from one page to another. Also one can change the order of pages. The 'flow' of a document can be changed by using the tag, reading order and contents panels, which are difficult to master though. |
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Although page and image cropping is possible, as mentioned, it is important to note that the content outside the crop stays in the document, so it does not result in a smaller file, and is not a solution for hiding information one doesn't want to share. On the other hand, one can remove information if is in a separate element and one can enlarge or cut down a document by adding or removing whole pages. It is even possible to add new elements from scratch, but not with all features a word processor offers, so this is more like a last resort when the document is not available in another format. |
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Adding pages with a different (letter/A4) size is difficult. Combining pages from different documents usually works, but I encounter sometimes error messages. |
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It is true that when one adds more text or elements than fit on one page, Acrobat does nothing to solve that problem, while a word processor would send the superfluous content to the next page. The same happens when the page is half blank because of removed information. Desiring to have neatly filled pages, I end up in copying elements from one page to another. I suppose that this was what really was meant with the text in the article. Summarizing: the description of features and limitations is not really correct, but some things which ''are'' possible, are more cumbersome than in a word processor. [[User:Bever|Bever]] ([[User talk:Bever|talk]]) 01:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Why the pop-up box and buttons for search is so small? It is so inconvenient apparently for no reason. [[User:Pali1234|Pali1234]] ([[User talk:Pali1234|talk]]) 11:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC) |
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I don't see a compelling reason why stuff like the mobile readers are on this page. The desktop version of the Reader maybe belongs here as it shares some features with the Acrobat of the same generation, but I'm not entirely sold about that combination either. If I want to find out just what was added to Reader XI vs. Reader X, I can't seem to find it on this page. And something non-trivial was actually added/changed between these two versions. [[User:JMP EAX|JMP EAX]] ([[User talk:JMP EAX|talk]]) 12:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC) |
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: I see the same thing was proposed not so long ago, and there was no opposition: [[Talk:Adobe_Acrobat/Archive_1#Splitting_Acrobat_and_Reader]]. [[User:JMP EAX|JMP EAX]] ([[User talk:JMP EAX|talk]]) 12:56, 3 August 2014 (UTC) |
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[edit]I'm unsure why this is listed and why it links only to the Creative Cloud article. Details of actual controversy and criticism are here Adobe Systems#Source code and customer data breach and here Adobe Systems#Criticism of Creative Cloud. Would it not be better to link directly to one or both?
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Plagiarism
[edit]I have found slight plagiarism in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Acrobat#Security !!! Check it out. Jordf32123 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:01, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
free software equivalent to adobe reader
[edit]May somebody tell me an equivalent of adobe reader free as in "free software", in order to I precise it in the Article ? 2A01:CB0C:38C:9F00:31CD:9270:5879:5FE6 (talk) 16:56, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Foxit Reader is an excellent freeware alternative. But the info you are suggesting to add might be better to include in the List of PDF software article. There is also a portable version of Foxit PDF Reader which works quite well (although the latest portable version seems to have broken the Text-To-Speech feature, whereas it had worked extremely well in older versions). -- Concord19 (talk) 22:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Linux?
[edit]The mention of a Linux download appears to be out of date, as the urls given are either not found, or do not list Linux. I vaguely recall hearing something about Adobe dropping a Linux version; that should be found and cited, and the out of date content removed. ♦ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:23, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Limitations
[edit]I think the following statements in the Purpose section are not completely true:
- "Because of the nature of the PDF, however, once a PDF document is created, its natural organization and flow cannot be meaningfully modified. In other words, Adobe Acrobat is able to modify the contents of paragraphs and images, but doing so does not repaginate the whole document to accommodate for a longer or shorter document. Acrobat can crop PDF pages (...)"
It may be true for older versions (before 9), but the order of paragraphs or other elements can be changed, just by dragging them over the page or by cut-and-paste from one page to another. Also one can change the order of pages. The 'flow' of a document can be changed by using the tag, reading order and contents panels, which are difficult to master though.
Although page and image cropping is possible, as mentioned, it is important to note that the content outside the crop stays in the document, so it does not result in a smaller file, and is not a solution for hiding information one doesn't want to share. On the other hand, one can remove information if is in a separate element and one can enlarge or cut down a document by adding or removing whole pages. It is even possible to add new elements from scratch, but not with all features a word processor offers, so this is more like a last resort when the document is not available in another format.
Adding pages with a different (letter/A4) size is difficult. Combining pages from different documents usually works, but I encounter sometimes error messages.
It is true that when one adds more text or elements than fit on one page, Acrobat does nothing to solve that problem, while a word processor would send the superfluous content to the next page. The same happens when the page is half blank because of removed information. Desiring to have neatly filled pages, I end up in copying elements from one page to another. I suppose that this was what really was meant with the text in the article. Summarizing: the description of features and limitations is not really correct, but some things which are possible, are more cumbersome than in a word processor. Bever (talk) 01:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Adobe screen
[edit]Why the pop-up box and buttons for search is so small? It is so inconvenient apparently for no reason. Pali1234 (talk) 11:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
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