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There is a separate article [[Demilitarized zone (computing)]] dedicated to demilitarized zones in computer security, and there is a link to that article here. The section comcerning those should be merged with that article. The interwiki links to de: and nl: should then be removed as the corresponding articles treat exclusively of DMZ-s in computer security. [[User:Andres|Andres]] 05:10, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
There is a separate article [[Demilitarized zone (computing)]] dedicated to demilitarized zones in computer security, and there is a link to that article here. The section comcerning those should be merged with that article. The interwiki links to de: and nl: should then be removed as the corresponding articles treat exclusively of DMZ-s in computer security. [[User:Andres|Andres]] 05:10, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC) |
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==Norway and Sweden== |
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A DMZ also excisted on the border between Norway an Sweden from 1905 to i think the 1990's, but then it hadn't been enforced for quite a while. [[User:Inge|Inge]] 15:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC) |
A DMZ also excisted on the border between Norway an Sweden from 1905 to i think the 1990's, but then it hadn't been enforced for quite a while. [[User:Inge|Inge]] 15:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC) |
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==Canada and US?== |
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does the Canada - US border warrent inclusion? I think I remember something about it being the longest non-militerised border in the world. And possible this was a condition of 1812-1814 or one of the later border disputes? [[User:Murray.booth|Murray.booth]] 08:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:I've seen it mostly cited as "undefended" border, which is different from demilitarised. --[[User:Kvasir|Kvasir]] 08:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Gibraltar-La Linea Neutral Ground == |
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The text slips from the subject of "demilitarized zone" to the sovereignty over that strip of land. |
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By the way, we aren't explained how the southern half of the "neutral ground" became "British territory". The Spanish point of view is that it never did: it's Spanish territory under British occupation. See, for instance, a Gibraltar website (www.gibnet.com/texts/neutral.htm, probably the very source of that paragraph), where today's situation is explained as the result of military occupation: "[...] the area to the North of Gibraltar, militarily conquered and continuously occupied by the British... ". |
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In the end, they come to admit that no treaty was signed between both nations about the question of the sovereignty over the Gibraltar-La Linea Neutral Ground. |
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[[User:NaviaRibadeo|NaviaRibadeo]] ([[User talk:NaviaRibadeo|talk]]) 10:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:Nobody has explained why the Northern part was occupied by Spain either, as although its still shown on maps there has been no 'Neutral Ground' for a very long time. --[[User:Gibnews|Gibnews]] ([[User talk:Gibnews|talk]]) 23:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==Libya DMZ?== |
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Hi there, |
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I just wondering if it possible for Libya to have a DMZ soon because for the [[2011 Libyan uprising|current uprising]]? |
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--McAusten 11:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Cyprus == |
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I was wondering as to why the Cypriot Demilitarized Zone is listed under the Europe section. I understand the country may be considered European Culturally and such, but wouldn't the DMZ still be located geographically in Asia, as the Eastern Mediterranean, the location of the island Cyprus,is considered part of Western Asia? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.186.245.107|76.186.245.107]] ([[User talk:76.186.245.107|talk]]) 07:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== DMZ redirect == |
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[[DMZ]] currently redirects to this page, instead of to [[DMZ (computing)]]. According to http://stats.grok.se/ , the computing page gets about twice as many views as this page. For that reason, I feel that [[DMZ]] should redirect there instead of here. Thoughts? <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 14:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC) |
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: I don't know Wiki Rules - not sure hit-count is valid - maybe they were looking for the other meaning ? This is the original, canonical meaning of the phrase - the use in computing is just an analogy.[[Firewall]] goes to a disambiguation page - a neutral solution. [[Icon]] goes to the original religious artefact. [[Radio button]] goes to the computing usage.--[[Special:Contributions/195.137.93.171|195.137.93.171]] ([[User talk:195.137.93.171|talk]]) 22:49, 19 March 2014 (UTC) |
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== Roman DMZ == |
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One of Rome's doctrine was to make neutral buffer states between threats, or, if this was not possible, force the threat to not put troops within x distance of Rome, usually 5 Roman miles, and occasionally more. Would this qualify for this DMZ, or should an article about Ancient DMZ's be made? -- [[User:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Iazyges</span>]] [[User talk:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Consermonor</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Opus meum</span>]] 01:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC) |
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== No man's land == |
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I'm not an expert, but I would like to see disambiguation between DMZ and NML |
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The only connection I found was a reference to the Korean DMZ in the article on NML. [[User:Chris2crawford|Chris2crawford]] ([[User talk:Chris2crawford|talk]]) 04:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC) |
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== Aegean Islands == |
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Not sure how good an example this is -- Turkey has conspicuously failed to meet many of it its obligations under the relevant treaty, and it's doubtful whether the Greek government considers itself legally bound by the demilitarization provisions... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 21:10, 4 May 2020 (UTC) |
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== DMZ along the Iraq - Kuwait border == |
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The article confused the length of the border with the width of the demilitarized zone. Fixed. [[Special:Contributions/174.28.121.33|174.28.121.33]] ([[User talk:174.28.121.33|talk]]) 08:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC) |
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And somebody reverted it. Need I point out that the entire country of Kuwait is less than 120 miles wide? So to say that the DMZ is 120 miles wide is plain wrong. As the article on that very area even points out, the zone extends 6 miles into Iraq and 3 miles into Kuwait. That's 9 miles in width. [[Special:Contributions/174.28.121.33|174.28.121.33]] ([[User talk:174.28.121.33|talk]]) 08:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Disambig
[edit]There is a separate article Demilitarized zone (computing) dedicated to demilitarized zones in computer security, and there is a link to that article here. The section comcerning those should be merged with that article. The interwiki links to de: and nl: should then be removed as the corresponding articles treat exclusively of DMZ-s in computer security. Andres 05:10, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Done. Pasting text that should be merged with Demilitarized zone (computing) here:
In computer network terms, a DMZ is a network or part of a network, separated from other systems by a firewall which allows only certain types of network traffic to enter or leave. In a typical example, a company will protect its internal networks from the internet with a firewall, but will have a separate DMZ to which the public can gain limited access. Public web servers might be placed in such a DMZ. pamri 04:52, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
- The disambig link seemed a bit wordy to me — I haven't seen any others that give such a full definition of the term they link to. I shortened it, as anyone who needs to know more about the computing term can always follow the link itself. Lusanaherandraton 08:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Norway and Sweden
[edit]A DMZ also excisted on the border between Norway an Sweden from 1905 to i think the 1990's, but then it hadn't been enforced for quite a while. Inge 15:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Canada and US?
[edit]does the Canada - US border warrent inclusion? I think I remember something about it being the longest non-militerised border in the world. And possible this was a condition of 1812-1814 or one of the later border disputes? Murray.booth 08:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've seen it mostly cited as "undefended" border, which is different from demilitarised. --Kvasir 08:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Gibraltar-La Linea Neutral Ground
[edit]The text slips from the subject of "demilitarized zone" to the sovereignty over that strip of land. By the way, we aren't explained how the southern half of the "neutral ground" became "British territory". The Spanish point of view is that it never did: it's Spanish territory under British occupation. See, for instance, a Gibraltar website (www.gibnet.com/texts/neutral.htm, probably the very source of that paragraph), where today's situation is explained as the result of military occupation: "[...] the area to the North of Gibraltar, militarily conquered and continuously occupied by the British... ". In the end, they come to admit that no treaty was signed between both nations about the question of the sovereignty over the Gibraltar-La Linea Neutral Ground. NaviaRibadeo (talk) 10:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody has explained why the Northern part was occupied by Spain either, as although its still shown on maps there has been no 'Neutral Ground' for a very long time. --Gibnews (talk) 23:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Libya DMZ?
[edit]Hi there, I just wondering if it possible for Libya to have a DMZ soon because for the current uprising? --McAusten 11:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Cyprus
[edit]I was wondering as to why the Cypriot Demilitarized Zone is listed under the Europe section. I understand the country may be considered European Culturally and such, but wouldn't the DMZ still be located geographically in Asia, as the Eastern Mediterranean, the location of the island Cyprus,is considered part of Western Asia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.245.107 (talk) 07:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
DMZ redirect
[edit]DMZ currently redirects to this page, instead of to DMZ (computing). According to http://stats.grok.se/ , the computing page gets about twice as many views as this page. For that reason, I feel that DMZ should redirect there instead of here. Thoughts? --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 14:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know Wiki Rules - not sure hit-count is valid - maybe they were looking for the other meaning ? This is the original, canonical meaning of the phrase - the use in computing is just an analogy.Firewall goes to a disambiguation page - a neutral solution. Icon goes to the original religious artefact. Radio button goes to the computing usage.--195.137.93.171 (talk) 22:49, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Roman DMZ
[edit]One of Rome's doctrine was to make neutral buffer states between threats, or, if this was not possible, force the threat to not put troops within x distance of Rome, usually 5 Roman miles, and occasionally more. Would this qualify for this DMZ, or should an article about Ancient DMZ's be made? -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 01:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
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No man's land
[edit]I'm not an expert, but I would like to see disambiguation between DMZ and NML The only connection I found was a reference to the Korean DMZ in the article on NML. Chris2crawford (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Aegean Islands
[edit]Not sure how good an example this is -- Turkey has conspicuously failed to meet many of it its obligations under the relevant treaty, and it's doubtful whether the Greek government considers itself legally bound by the demilitarization provisions... AnonMoos (talk) 21:10, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
DMZ along the Iraq - Kuwait border
[edit]The article confused the length of the border with the width of the demilitarized zone. Fixed. 174.28.121.33 (talk) 08:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
And somebody reverted it. Need I point out that the entire country of Kuwait is less than 120 miles wide? So to say that the DMZ is 120 miles wide is plain wrong. As the article on that very area even points out, the zone extends 6 miles into Iraq and 3 miles into Kuwait. That's 9 miles in width. 174.28.121.33 (talk) 08:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)