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Not enough context is provided in the introduction of this article. Moreover, many assumptions are made about prior knowledge held by any potential readers. I added the globalize tag because the text is overly generalized and provides almost no real-world examples. Is this mainly a problem in the EU? It needs a different title, too. -[[User:Acjelen|Acjelen]] 03:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC) |
Not enough context is provided in the introduction of this article. Moreover, many assumptions are made about prior knowledge held by any potential readers. I added the globalize tag because the text is overly generalized and provides almost no real-world examples. Is this mainly a problem in the EU? It needs a different title, too. -[[User:Acjelen|Acjelen]] 03:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC) |
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Thank you for this comment. The reference to state is clearly linked to an appropriate page to explain it. The conflicts that arise are between states whether they be federal as in the U.S. or national. Hence, the problems may be, in your terms, entirely national. For example, suppose that a man domiciled in Alabama and a woman domiciled in Texas go through a process for a get before the Beth Din in New York (the Jewish form of divorce which entitles either spouse to remarry under Judaic Law). Is there a need for them to go through a secular divorce anywhere in the U.S. and, if so, what happens if the secular court disagrees with some of the orders made by the Beth Din? Now convert this to a husband who flies to Reno. Will a divorce decree granted by the courts in Nevada be recognised as effective in every other state, whether it be in the U.S. or elsewhere? In other words, this is not simply an international matter. The American Law Institute is in the forefront of laying down standards to resolve conflict problems just as there is an international standing committee at The Hague for supranational harmonisation. [[User:David91|David91]] 05:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC) |
Thank you for this comment. The reference to state is clearly linked to an appropriate page to explain it. The conflicts that arise are between states whether they be federal as in the U.S. or national. Hence, the problems may be, in your terms, entirely national. For example, suppose that a man domiciled in Alabama and a woman domiciled in Texas go through a process for a get before the Beth Din in New York (the Jewish form of divorce which entitles either spouse to remarry under Judaic Law). Is there a need for them to go through a secular divorce anywhere in the U.S. and, if so, what happens if the secular court disagrees with some of the orders made by the Beth Din? Now convert this to a husband who flies to Reno. Will a divorce decree granted by the courts in Nevada be recognised as effective in every other state, whether it be in the U.S. or elsewhere? In other words, this is not simply an international matter. The American Law Institute is in the forefront of laying down standards to resolve conflict problems just as there is an international standing committee at The Hague for supranational harmonisation. [[User:David91|David91]] 05:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC) |
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Article lacks a basic definition and tends to ramble, losing focus. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Davjosmes|Davjosmes]] ([[User talk:Davjosmes|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Davjosmes|contribs]]) 10:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I have degraded this to a stub. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 23:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC) |
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[edit]Not enough context is provided in the introduction of this article. Moreover, many assumptions are made about prior knowledge held by any potential readers. I added the globalize tag because the text is overly generalized and provides almost no real-world examples. Is this mainly a problem in the EU? It needs a different title, too. -Acjelen 03:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. I am writing this slowly and it is not yet finished. There will be one or two cases mentioned when I get into recognition of the talaq and other non-judicial divorces, but: (a) this is a world-wide system and not specific to any one state or grouping of states, and (b) it definitely does not require a new title — the Conflict of Laws is the standard topic and all material pertinent to this area is tagged with a Conflict bracket. Given this, I have removed the globalise tag since this is not a globablised but highly specialised topic. David91 05:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- While I generally think that readers from the U.S. should not be coddled on Wikipedia, your use of state will be confusing to many American readers, especially when you do not elaborate that the jurisdiction problems discussed are often international in nature. -Acjelen 04:40, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for this comment. The reference to state is clearly linked to an appropriate page to explain it. The conflicts that arise are between states whether they be federal as in the U.S. or national. Hence, the problems may be, in your terms, entirely national. For example, suppose that a man domiciled in Alabama and a woman domiciled in Texas go through a process for a get before the Beth Din in New York (the Jewish form of divorce which entitles either spouse to remarry under Judaic Law). Is there a need for them to go through a secular divorce anywhere in the U.S. and, if so, what happens if the secular court disagrees with some of the orders made by the Beth Din? Now convert this to a husband who flies to Reno. Will a divorce decree granted by the courts in Nevada be recognised as effective in every other state, whether it be in the U.S. or elsewhere? In other words, this is not simply an international matter. The American Law Institute is in the forefront of laying down standards to resolve conflict problems just as there is an international standing committee at The Hague for supranational harmonisation. David91 05:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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[edit]Article lacks a basic definition and tends to ramble, losing focus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davjosmes (talk • contribs) 10:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have degraded this to a stub. Bearian (talk) 23:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Contract (conflict) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 20:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)