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Why is this not an article? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.121.23.59|76.121.23.59]] ([[User talk:76.121.23.59|talk]]) 19:36, August 29, 2012</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
Why is this not an article? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.121.23.59|76.121.23.59]] ([[User talk:76.121.23.59|talk]]) 19:36, August 29, 2012</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> |
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:If Romney/Ryan win the presidential election, at that time, late November 6/early November 7, 2012, it would be appropriate to create an article on Janna Ryan as the incoming "second lady." However, she is NOT notable of her own right at the present time and therefore it would currently be inappropriate to create an article for her. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 19:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC) |
:If Romney/Ryan win the presidential election, at that time, late November 6/early November 7, 2012, it would be appropriate to create an article on Janna Ryan as the incoming "second lady." However, she is NOT notable of her own right at the present time and therefore it would currently be inappropriate to create an article for her. [[User:Safiel|Safiel]] ([[User talk:Safiel|talk]]) 19:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC) |
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::The comparison points are recent spouses of the losing major party vice presidential candidates: [[Todd Palin]] (2008), [[Elizabeth Edwards]] (2004), [[Hadassah Lieberman]] (2000), [[Joanne Kemp]] (1996), N/A (1992), [[Beryl Ann Bentsen]] (1988), [[John Zaccaro]] (1984), N/A (1980), [[Elizabeth Dole]] (1976), [[Eunice Kennedy Shriver]] (1972), [[Jane Muskie (NR)|Jane Muskie]] (1968), [[Stephanie Miller (NR)|Stephanie Miller]] (1964), [[Emily Sears Lodge]] (1960). (The N/A's are cases where the loser was an incumbent Second Lady, such as Barbara Bush, and thus would have an article anyway.) About an equal amount of red and blue, although more blue lately. [[User:Wasted Time R|Wasted Time R]] ([[User talk:Wasted Time R|talk]]) 00:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC) |
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::What is the rationale for waiting until if/when Ryan becomes the VP? As was pointed out in the post above, since the 1960's, almost every *losing* VP spouse has ended up with an article, so what's the purpose of waiting to publish hers? She is already a public figure who is well-known by American voters and has had lots of press attention paid to her. In this day and age, participating (even as a spouse) in a presidential election certainly exposes a person to the public enough for them to be defined as "notable." Notable is not synonymous with accomplished, though it appears that some would like to think it is - when it suits them.[[Special:Contributions/98.196.14.18|98.196.14.18]] ([[User talk:98.196.14.18|talk]]) 22:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC) |
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[edit]Why is this not an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.23.59 (talk) 19:36, August 29, 2012
- If Romney/Ryan win the presidential election, at that time, late November 6/early November 7, 2012, it would be appropriate to create an article on Janna Ryan as the incoming "second lady." However, she is NOT notable of her own right at the present time and therefore it would currently be inappropriate to create an article for her. Safiel (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- The comparison points are recent spouses of the losing major party vice presidential candidates: Todd Palin (2008), Elizabeth Edwards (2004), Hadassah Lieberman (2000), Joanne Kemp (1996), N/A (1992), Beryl Ann Bentsen (1988), John Zaccaro (1984), N/A (1980), Elizabeth Dole (1976), Eunice Kennedy Shriver (1972), Jane Muskie (1968), Stephanie Miller (1964), Emily Sears Lodge (1960). (The N/A's are cases where the loser was an incumbent Second Lady, such as Barbara Bush, and thus would have an article anyway.) About an equal amount of red and blue, although more blue lately. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- What is the rationale for waiting until if/when Ryan becomes the VP? As was pointed out in the post above, since the 1960's, almost every *losing* VP spouse has ended up with an article, so what's the purpose of waiting to publish hers? She is already a public figure who is well-known by American voters and has had lots of press attention paid to her. In this day and age, participating (even as a spouse) in a presidential election certainly exposes a person to the public enough for them to be defined as "notable." Notable is not synonymous with accomplished, though it appears that some would like to think it is - when it suits them.98.196.14.18 (talk) 22:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)