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Now that this has been cut and pasted from [[Riga]], the history there might be judiciously condensed?--[[User:Wetman|Wetman]] ([[User talk:Wetman|talk]]) 21:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Now that this has been cut and pasted from [[Riga]], the history there might be judiciously condensed?--[[User:Wetman|Wetman]] ([[User talk:Wetman|talk]]) 21:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== ? ==

This sentence is not only grammatical, but also historical mistake. What failed? What Lutheranism and Thirty Years' War has to do with it?

"''...in Riga and southern Livonia failed as in 1621, Riga and the outlying fortress of Daugavgriva came under the rule of Gustavus Adolphus, King of Sweden, who intervened in the Thirty Years' War not only for political and economic gain but also in favor of German Lutheran Protestantism...''"

P.S. why not to mention [[Peace of Riga]] 1921?
[[User:Mikołajski|Mikołajski]] ([[User talk:Mikołajski|talk]]) 21:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:And one more - is Lutheranism a "''German''" religion? I smelln some groß mistake. This city deserve better history article in Wiki. Come on... [[User:Mikołajski|Mikołajski]] ([[User talk:Mikołajski|talk]]) 03:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

== History as part of [[Riga]] FA effort ==
With the proposed effort to try to FA [[Riga]], I started to work through the history section. Of course I made what I updated even longer (!) so I put that here while abbreviating for [[Riga]]. A couple of things still left to have here and not there. [[User:Vecrumba|<font style="color: #a12830; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;">V<small>ЄСRUМВА</small>]] [[User_talk:Vecrumba|<font style="color: #ffffff;background-color:#a12830;">&nbsp;&#9742;&nbsp;</font>]]</font> 14:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Next section to be abridged cut over (Under Bishop Albert). Comments welcome. [[User:Vecrumba|<span style="color:#a12830; font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;">V<small>ЄСRUМВА</small></span>]] [[User_talk:Vecrumba|<span style="color:#ffffff; background-color:#a12830;">&nbsp;♪&nbsp;</span>]] 22:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

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== Citations needed ==

In my opinion, this page has multiple issues.
1. First of all, there are too few references and even the first chapter, who is appearently full of them, needs to be updated. You can’t verify any single quote because there are no url available: the only two available are in Latvian and it’s impossible to verify them for a non-Latvian speaker.
2. After the chapter about the Hanseatic League, you can’t find many references. The page becomes more like a list of events instead of a clear and structured reconstruction. Plus, they need to be expanded. -[[User:X3SNW8|X3SNW8]] ([[User talk:X3SNW8|talk]]) 13:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
: Unfortunately, I don't have downloads for sources I used in the first section of the history rewrite.
: When it comes to subjects not widely covered in English language, think of it as an advantage that there are editors willing to translate. Question for you on "impossible to verify" sources--has there been any discussion of editors posting original-source-language excerpts in article talk where they can be cut and pasted into Google Translate? The translations for less populous languages are often less than perfect, but it would at least provide some measure of verification for the motivated.
: I agree that the remainder of the article remains adequate regarding content and citations, however, I expect it will be at least another year before I can return here for the next installment (and to add more meat to my citations).
:[[User:Vecrumba|VєсrumЬа]]<small> ►[[User_talk:Vecrumba|TALK]]</small> 16:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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Now that this has been cut and pasted from Riga, the history there might be judiciously condensed?--Wetman (talk) 21:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

?

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This sentence is not only grammatical, but also historical mistake. What failed? What Lutheranism and Thirty Years' War has to do with it?

"...in Riga and southern Livonia failed as in 1621, Riga and the outlying fortress of Daugavgriva came under the rule of Gustavus Adolphus, King of Sweden, who intervened in the Thirty Years' War not only for political and economic gain but also in favor of German Lutheran Protestantism..."

P.S. why not to mention Peace of Riga 1921? Mikołajski (talk) 21:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And one more - is Lutheranism a "German" religion? I smelln some groß mistake. This city deserve better history article in Wiki. Come on... Mikołajski (talk) 03:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History as part of Riga FA effort

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With the proposed effort to try to FA Riga, I started to work through the history section. Of course I made what I updated even longer (!) so I put that here while abbreviating for Riga. A couple of things still left to have here and not there. VЄСRUМВА  ☎  14:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Next section to be abridged cut over (Under Bishop Albert). Comments welcome. VЄСRUМВА  ♪  22:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Citations needed

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In my opinion, this page has multiple issues. 1. First of all, there are too few references and even the first chapter, who is appearently full of them, needs to be updated. You can’t verify any single quote because there are no url available: the only two available are in Latvian and it’s impossible to verify them for a non-Latvian speaker. 2. After the chapter about the Hanseatic League, you can’t find many references. The page becomes more like a list of events instead of a clear and structured reconstruction. Plus, they need to be expanded. -X3SNW8 (talk) 13:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I don't have downloads for sources I used in the first section of the history rewrite.
When it comes to subjects not widely covered in English language, think of it as an advantage that there are editors willing to translate. Question for you on "impossible to verify" sources--has there been any discussion of editors posting original-source-language excerpts in article talk where they can be cut and pasted into Google Translate? The translations for less populous languages are often less than perfect, but it would at least provide some measure of verification for the motivated.
I agree that the remainder of the article remains adequate regarding content and citations, however, I expect it will be at least another year before I can return here for the next installment (and to add more meat to my citations).
VєсrumЬаTALK 16:48, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]