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Everest campuses offer different programs so this should be mentioned somewhere. It seems misleading to simply list all programs. [[User:Hechung|Hechung]] 17:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)Hechung |
Everest campuses offer different programs so this should be mentioned somewhere. It seems misleading to simply list all programs. [[User:Hechung|Hechung]] 17:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)Hechung |
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I found spam in the external link section. Please keep an eye on this page. [[User:Hechung|Hechung]] 23:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== Accreditation == |
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I go to this school and i'm really scared that it wont do me any good. that my employers wont really be impressed by it. i cant even transfer to a community college from there. how bad is that? steven. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.105.47.225|71.105.47.225]] ([[User talk:71.105.47.225|talk]]) 10:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Shouldn't this subject be mentioned on a page about a college? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Plumlogan|Plumlogan]] ([[User talk:Plumlogan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Plumlogan|contribs]]) 16:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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It would be nice, but since Everest College has dozens of campuses across the United States and Canada and each campus has it's own accreditation based on the state, location, courses offered, country, etc. it would be very difficult to list them all individually on this page! See this page: http://www.everest.edu/accreditation/college [[User:Warpdesign|Warpdesign]] ([[User talk:Warpdesign|talk]]) 19:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:I can say rather authoritatively that it is up to each school whether to accept your transfer credits. Your campus of Everest college may have a list of who will take their credits and who won't, as they have a list (they do) of whose credits they take. This predicament is in no way peculiar to Everest College--transferring from Yale to Harvard, or any two schools, you may face the same thing. Likewise, there is always a continuum of how impressed an employer is with your school, but market forces balance that out--Everest College will generally be just as respected as any other college at its rank, including any other school that you could have gotten into or that has the same programs.--[[User:Mrcolj|Mrcolj]] ([[User talk:Mrcolj|talk]]) 18:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::The parent company of Everest College [[Corinthian Colleges]] is in a state of financial collapse, in part because its "nationally" accredited courses and degrees are generally not accepted by other colleges. (see [[Regional_accreditation#Regional_accreditation_vs._national_accreditation | National Accreditation]].) All United States campuses of Everest "are to be sold or closed beginning on July 3, 2014," according to the [[Corinthian Colleges]] Wikipedia article and other sources. This fact needs to be the major focus of this article. [[User:HowardMorland|HowardMorland]] ([[User talk:HowardMorland|talk]]) 17:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC) |
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:::I agree that it should be a (maybe not THE) major focus of this article. I actually popped onto this talk page to see if this discussion was going on. That being said, not all Everest Colleges are nationally accredited, many are regionally accredited, and especially when you consider the whole range of major-specific accreditations they have to get. (For those of you who aren't familiar with the topic, regionally accredited is harder to get than nationally accredited--but they're both difficult to get and both meticulously overseen by the Department of Education.) Anyway, someone be bold and write a NPOV article about what's going on--not just with Everest, but with every small private college under this administration (the DoE is trying to shut down just as many ITTs, Academies of Art and Argosys. BTW, the reason for the litigation and the financial collapse isn't accreditation, it's lawsuits about predatory recruiting.)--[[User:Mrcolj|Mrcolj]] ([[User talk:Mrcolj|talk]]) 23:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC) |
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== Bryman college == |
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Please do not erase where it says it used to be bryman because it's sometimes confusing due to the change in name. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.87.131.89|76.87.131.89]] ([[User talk:76.87.131.89|talk]]) 00:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Zenith Campuses are still open for business; Only CCI campuses (CA, AZ, NY) Closed == |
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Not sure what to do or how to go about this, but this and other Everest and WyoTech pages are implying that all of the Everest Colleges, Institutes and University and WyoTech campuses are closed. They are not. There are around 50 some odd campuses still active, now under new ownership and new transparent non-profit leadership, <ref>http://www.zenith.org/schools/locations/</ref><ref>http://www.everest.edu/locations/map</ref><ref>http://www.wyotech.edu/locations/</ref><ref>http://www.cci.edu/update.php</ref>. |
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CCI is gone, but many of the campuses were bought by Zenith Education Group and are still surviving. Can one of the Wikipedia editors update this information accurately? |
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[[Special:Contributions/207.38.121.252|207.38.121.252]] ([[User talk:207.38.121.252|talk]]) 20:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC) |
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::The article currently contains the referenced sentence "On February 3, 2015, Corinthian Colleges sold 53 of its Everest and WyoTech campuses and online programs to the Zenith Education Group, a new subsidiary of the ECMC Group." Is there something you would like to add to this? [[User:Dialectric|Dialectric]] ([[User talk:Dialectric|talk]]) 20:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC) |
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Yes, but someone changed it to past tense language... language that implies all of everest's campuses were closed which is confusing to the public in an already confusing situation and is greatly hurting the chances of survival for these remaining campuses still active and open and trying to turn things around and positively serve currently enrolled students as well as future students. |
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I'm open to suggestions, but the links I provided show which schools are still open and active. I'd like to see the campus lists on this and the other related articles properly reflect which campuses are open and active vs. which were closed or taught out. Also the tense of the article using language like 'Everest College was a system of for profit colleges... "-- which is technically correct, as the schools have been converted to non-profit with new ownership -- and "Former Everest College campus locations in the United States" implies all of Everest schools went under when CCi went under and that's just not true. Is there anything that can be done to turn the opening paragraph to reflect the current situation and new ownership first rather than lead with the past now-defunct ownership that at first glance makes it seem that all these schools are now closed, which simply isn't true? I'm not sure how this works; should I paste in the Talk page exactly which campuses are still open meaning that all the rest are now closed? [[Special:Contributions/207.38.121.252|207.38.121.252]] ([[User talk:207.38.121.252|talk]]) 23:42, 5 June 2015 (UTC) |
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::I agree that the articles could better reflect the current state of these colleges, but the whole thing is tangled. At the time of acquisition, it was unclear if Zenith would keep operating the colleges under the old names or not. It now appears that they are using the old names, but this is messy because they only bought some of the colleges. Wyotech should be the easist to sort out since they only have a few branches. Your link says 3. The [[Wyotech]] article still shows CCI operated branches. I assume these are closed, but it is hard to pin down reliable sources that make the distinction. I will try later this week to sort out the sourcing more.[[User:Dialectric|Dialectric]] ([[User talk:Dialectric|talk]]) 17:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC) |
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Correct, there are no longer any CCi campuses still open. All campuses in California, Arkansas and New York are now closed. Also, Zenith-owned, but had to be closed were all the Illinois campuses. There are other campuses that were closed or closing that may also need to be updated, but the links I sent you should have an accurate campus list of those still open and operating.... Currently, those links I provided will be the only accurate sources of the campuses that are still open and operating. I've looked. There are no articles, or other press (on the Web) since CCi closed that makes note of the campuses still open and operating. And... Thank you for your help. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.38.121.252|207.38.121.252]] ([[User talk:207.38.121.252|talk]]) 18:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[Special:Contributions/207.38.121.252|207.38.121.252]] ([[User talk:207.38.121.252|talk]]) 21:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)Thank you Dialectric. |
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Everest campuses offer different programs so this should be mentioned somewhere. It seems misleading to simply list all programs. Hechung 17:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)Hechung
Just found this everest college blog site: http://everestcollege.wordpress.com/ I typically refrain from using blogs in external links sections. What do you think? Should this get added or not? Hechung 21:46, 12 December 2006 (UTC)Hechung
Everest College has an online entity as well. It's referred to as Everest Online. Unsure if that deserves its own page, or whether it should only be discussed in this article. Any ideas? You can review the sites at: http://everestonline.wordpress.com/ and http://everestonline.com/ Let me know what you think Hechung 18:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I found spam in the external link section. Please keep an eye on this page. Hechung 23:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Accreditation
[edit]I go to this school and i'm really scared that it wont do me any good. that my employers wont really be impressed by it. i cant even transfer to a community college from there. how bad is that? steven. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.47.225 (talk) 10:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this subject be mentioned on a page about a college? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plumlogan (talk • contribs) 16:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice, but since Everest College has dozens of campuses across the United States and Canada and each campus has it's own accreditation based on the state, location, courses offered, country, etc. it would be very difficult to list them all individually on this page! See this page: http://www.everest.edu/accreditation/college Warpdesign (talk) 19:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
- I can say rather authoritatively that it is up to each school whether to accept your transfer credits. Your campus of Everest college may have a list of who will take their credits and who won't, as they have a list (they do) of whose credits they take. This predicament is in no way peculiar to Everest College--transferring from Yale to Harvard, or any two schools, you may face the same thing. Likewise, there is always a continuum of how impressed an employer is with your school, but market forces balance that out--Everest College will generally be just as respected as any other college at its rank, including any other school that you could have gotten into or that has the same programs.--Mrcolj (talk) 18:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- The parent company of Everest College Corinthian Colleges is in a state of financial collapse, in part because its "nationally" accredited courses and degrees are generally not accepted by other colleges. (see National Accreditation.) All United States campuses of Everest "are to be sold or closed beginning on July 3, 2014," according to the Corinthian Colleges Wikipedia article and other sources. This fact needs to be the major focus of this article. HowardMorland (talk) 17:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that it should be a (maybe not THE) major focus of this article. I actually popped onto this talk page to see if this discussion was going on. That being said, not all Everest Colleges are nationally accredited, many are regionally accredited, and especially when you consider the whole range of major-specific accreditations they have to get. (For those of you who aren't familiar with the topic, regionally accredited is harder to get than nationally accredited--but they're both difficult to get and both meticulously overseen by the Department of Education.) Anyway, someone be bold and write a NPOV article about what's going on--not just with Everest, but with every small private college under this administration (the DoE is trying to shut down just as many ITTs, Academies of Art and Argosys. BTW, the reason for the litigation and the financial collapse isn't accreditation, it's lawsuits about predatory recruiting.)--Mrcolj (talk) 23:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
- The parent company of Everest College Corinthian Colleges is in a state of financial collapse, in part because its "nationally" accredited courses and degrees are generally not accepted by other colleges. (see National Accreditation.) All United States campuses of Everest "are to be sold or closed beginning on July 3, 2014," according to the Corinthian Colleges Wikipedia article and other sources. This fact needs to be the major focus of this article. HowardMorland (talk) 17:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Bryman college
[edit]Please do not erase where it says it used to be bryman because it's sometimes confusing due to the change in name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.131.89 (talk) 00:37, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Zenith Campuses are still open for business; Only CCI campuses (CA, AZ, NY) Closed
[edit]Not sure what to do or how to go about this, but this and other Everest and WyoTech pages are implying that all of the Everest Colleges, Institutes and University and WyoTech campuses are closed. They are not. There are around 50 some odd campuses still active, now under new ownership and new transparent non-profit leadership, [1][2][3][4].
CCI is gone, but many of the campuses were bought by Zenith Education Group and are still surviving. Can one of the Wikipedia editors update this information accurately? 207.38.121.252 (talk) 20:32, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- The article currently contains the referenced sentence "On February 3, 2015, Corinthian Colleges sold 53 of its Everest and WyoTech campuses and online programs to the Zenith Education Group, a new subsidiary of the ECMC Group." Is there something you would like to add to this? Dialectric (talk) 20:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but someone changed it to past tense language... language that implies all of everest's campuses were closed which is confusing to the public in an already confusing situation and is greatly hurting the chances of survival for these remaining campuses still active and open and trying to turn things around and positively serve currently enrolled students as well as future students.
I'm open to suggestions, but the links I provided show which schools are still open and active. I'd like to see the campus lists on this and the other related articles properly reflect which campuses are open and active vs. which were closed or taught out. Also the tense of the article using language like 'Everest College was a system of for profit colleges... "-- which is technically correct, as the schools have been converted to non-profit with new ownership -- and "Former Everest College campus locations in the United States" implies all of Everest schools went under when CCi went under and that's just not true. Is there anything that can be done to turn the opening paragraph to reflect the current situation and new ownership first rather than lead with the past now-defunct ownership that at first glance makes it seem that all these schools are now closed, which simply isn't true? I'm not sure how this works; should I paste in the Talk page exactly which campuses are still open meaning that all the rest are now closed? 207.38.121.252 (talk) 23:42, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
- I agree that the articles could better reflect the current state of these colleges, but the whole thing is tangled. At the time of acquisition, it was unclear if Zenith would keep operating the colleges under the old names or not. It now appears that they are using the old names, but this is messy because they only bought some of the colleges. Wyotech should be the easist to sort out since they only have a few branches. Your link says 3. The Wyotech article still shows CCI operated branches. I assume these are closed, but it is hard to pin down reliable sources that make the distinction. I will try later this week to sort out the sourcing more.Dialectric (talk) 17:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Correct, there are no longer any CCi campuses still open. All campuses in California, Arkansas and New York are now closed. Also, Zenith-owned, but had to be closed were all the Illinois campuses. There are other campuses that were closed or closing that may also need to be updated, but the links I sent you should have an accurate campus list of those still open and operating.... Currently, those links I provided will be the only accurate sources of the campuses that are still open and operating. I've looked. There are no articles, or other press (on the Web) since CCi closed that makes note of the campuses still open and operating. And... Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.121.252 (talk) 18:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
207.38.121.252 (talk) 21:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)Thank you Dialectric.
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