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== Requested move ==
== Requested move ==
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{{Requested move/dated|Matej Hočevar}}
:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

'''No consensus''' to move. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 19:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


[[Matej Hocevar]] → {{no redirect|1=Matej Hočevar}} – Correct spelling; not able to move myself because a redirect exists from the target name. — [[User:Yerpo|Yerpo]] <sup>[[User talk:Yerpo|Eh?]]</sup> 16:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
[[Matej Hocevar]] → {{no redirect|1=Matej Hočevar}} – Correct spelling; not able to move myself because a redirect exists from the target name. — [[User:Yerpo|Yerpo]] <sup>[[User talk:Yerpo|Eh?]]</sup> 16:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

*'''Oppose move''': This is the English Wikipedia, and according to the policy of [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)]], a biographical article does not use the subject's name as it might be spelled in Slovanian (with [[diacritic]]s) as its article title, nor does it use the person's legal name as it might appear on a birth certificate or passport; it instead uses the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Simply put, the use of "Matej Hocevar" is verified by the sources used within the article, and "Matej Hočevar" is not supported by the sources used as references for the article. [[User:Dolovis|Dolovis]] ([[User talk:Dolovis|talk]]) 23:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' all the current external links and single reference use the current spelling "Matej Hocevar" without accents. You haven't provided any reliable sources to show that your assertion is true, further you haven't shown your proposed spelling is used in English. [[Special:Contributions/65.94.44.141|65.94.44.141]] ([[User talk:65.94.44.141|talk]]) 05:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''', no valid rationale has been given for the move, and I note with some misgivings that it appears to have been carried out [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Matej_Ho%C4%8Devar&diff=432490379&oldid=429893921] regardless. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 08:30, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.''</div><!-- Template:pollbottom -->

::''Č'' is not a letter 'c' with diacritics, it's a separate letter. Also, per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]: "Sometimes the most appropriate title will contain diacritics (accent marks), dashes, or other letters and characters not found on most English-language keyboards. This can make it difficult to navigate to the article directly. In such cases, provide redirects from versions of the title that use only standard keyboard characters. This is one of those situations." See also the proposal to move at [[Talk:Anže Kopitar]]. In my opinion, the request should be made again as new arguments have emerged. --[[User:Eleassar|Eleassar]] <sup>[[User talk:Eleassar|my talk]]</sup> 15:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

==Move discussion in progress==
There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Andrej Tavzelj#Requested move |Talk:Andrej Tavzelj]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Andrej Tavzelj crosspost --> —[[User:RM bot|RM bot]] 14:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matej HocevarMatej Hočevar – Correct spelling; not able to move myself because a redirect exists from the target name. — Yerpo Eh? 16:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose move: This is the English Wikipedia, and according to the policy of WP:COMMONNAME and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English), a biographical article does not use the subject's name as it might be spelled in Slovanian (with diacritics) as its article title, nor does it use the person's legal name as it might appear on a birth certificate or passport; it instead uses the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. Simply put, the use of "Matej Hocevar" is verified by the sources used within the article, and "Matej Hočevar" is not supported by the sources used as references for the article. Dolovis (talk) 23:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose all the current external links and single reference use the current spelling "Matej Hocevar" without accents. You haven't provided any reliable sources to show that your assertion is true, further you haven't shown your proposed spelling is used in English. 65.94.44.141 (talk) 05:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, no valid rationale has been given for the move, and I note with some misgivings that it appears to have been carried out [1] regardless. Andrewa (talk) 08:30, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Č is not a letter 'c' with diacritics, it's a separate letter. Also, per WP:COMMONNAME: "Sometimes the most appropriate title will contain diacritics (accent marks), dashes, or other letters and characters not found on most English-language keyboards. This can make it difficult to navigate to the article directly. In such cases, provide redirects from versions of the title that use only standard keyboard characters. This is one of those situations." See also the proposal to move at Talk:Anže Kopitar. In my opinion, the request should be made again as new arguments have emerged. --Eleassar my talk 15:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Andrej Tavzelj which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RM bot 14:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]