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([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 17:26, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)) I've created this page because I want to link to it. At the momemnt I'm a bit unsure how big it should be. I think that most text should be on the [[IPCC]] page as at present. |
([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 17:26, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)) I've created this page because I want to link to it. At the momemnt I'm a bit unsure how big it should be. I think that most text should be on the [[IPCC]] page as at present. |
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==Titular acronym== |
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This shouldn't have an acronym for a title. I'm just not sure whether to move it to [[Third Assessment Report]], [[IPCC Third Assessment Report]], or [[Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report]]. I'm leaning toward the second. Opinions? —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 06:08, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
This shouldn't have an acronym for a title. I'm just not sure whether to move it to [[Third Assessment Report]], [[IPCC Third Assessment Report]], or [[Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report]]. I'm leaning toward the second. Opinions? —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 06:08, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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: ([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 09:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)) Well as long as the short form remains to link to I don't much mind. But... the first is out (other bodies might also issue third reps), the second has an acronym in the title :-) and the third is wordy but probably best |
: ([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 09:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)) Well as long as the short form remains to link to I don't much mind. But... the first is out (other bodies might also issue third reps), the second has an acronym in the title :-) and the third is wordy but probably best. |
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The second includes an acronym, of course, but the third is just insanely wordy. I mean, seriously: [[Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report]]. Forget it, I'm going with the second. —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 23:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
The second includes an acronym, of course, but the third is just insanely wordy. I mean, seriously: [[Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report]]. Forget it, I'm going with the second. —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 23:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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==Stub type== |
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([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 09:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)) Re the stub type: there is some history on that; Icairns changed it. I thought sci was better than geo. Possibly (if stub types are to proliferate) we could have a report-stub too. Or an intergovernmental bodies stub. OR a climate stub. I couldn't decide so did nothing. |
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:Nevertheless, climatology has no relation to geography, not by any stretch of the imagination. I have to wonder what was going through Icairns' head. |
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:Report-stub is too narrow, and intergovernmental-bodies-stub is ''way'' too narrow. Climate, I think, also probably doesn't make it; the [[Wikipedia:Stub categories|stub categories]] page says that new stubs should be created only for categories with a hundred pages or more, although that rule seems to be completely ignored ([[Template:Bush-stub|Bush-stub]]?!). |
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:Ah, I have it! The IPCC was founded by the [[United Nations|UN]], right? We can use the [[Template:UN-stub|UN-stub]]! Or do you think the connection is too tenuous? —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 23:58, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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:: ([[User:William M. Connolley|William M. Connolley]] 21:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)) There are quite a lot of climate pages: [[glossary of climate change]] (and that only includes the ch ones, by and large) |
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:::Seems to me like rather a lot of those are only tangentially related to climate, and wouldn't deserve a climate-stub tag if they were stubs. But I've broadened the UN-stub, so now it's definitely suitable for use for this page. —[[User:Simetrical|Simetrical]] ([[User_talk:Simetrical|talk]]) 22:14, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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I tried to fill this out as much as possible, make it a stand-alone article with links to other subjects (including "See Also" as not including things referenced or listed in the article, and as many inline references/links to other wiki pages as possible in the article), and for it to be accurate and descriptive. I included references to the WGs that handle different subjects, named for what they described the groups as being on their "about" page. For example, their current organization lists 3 WG and the TF, I tried to pull out short descriptions based upon what they said. Trouble is, their own link for WG III isn't working....... [[User:Sln3412|Sln3412]] 07:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Canonical IPCC citations == |
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See [[Talk:IPCC Third Assessment Report/citation]] for citation forms and data. |
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:: ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 00:12, 6 January 2012 (UTC) |
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As discussed at [[Talk:Global warming#Proposed IPCC citation]], I have worked out (and hopefully debugged! but feel free to check) a set of canonical citations (references, actually), with working links, for the principal IPCC documents as demonstated below. If there are no objections I will upgrade the existing citations in this article to this format. - [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 23:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC) |
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| series = Contribution of Working Group I to the [[IPCC Third Assessment Report|Third Assessment Report]] of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change |
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| editor = Houghton, J.T.; Ding, Y.; Griggs, D.J.; Noguer, M.; van der Linden, P.J.; Dai, X.; Maskell, K.; and Johnson, C.A. |
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| publisher = Cambridge University Press |
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| title = Climate Change 2001: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability |
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| series = Contribution of Working Group II to the [[IPCC Third Assessment Report|Third Assessment Report]] of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change |
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| editor = McCarthy, J. J.; Canziani, O. F.; Leary, N. A.; Dokken, D. J.; and White, K. S. |
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| series = Contribution of Working Group III to the [[IPCC Third Assessment Report|Third Assessment Report]] of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change |
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| editor = Metz, B.; Davidson, O.; Swart, R.; and Pan, J. |
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| title = Climate Change 2001: Synthesis Report |
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| series = Contribution of Working Groups I, II, and III to the [[IPCC Third Assessment Report|Third Assessment Report]] of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change |
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| editor = Watson, R. T.; and the Core Writing Team |
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| publisher = Cambridge University Press |
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| url = http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/vol4/english/index.htm |
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| isbn = 0 521 80770 0 |
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:::Updated forms. - [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 20:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC) |
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It doesn't look like anyone is much concerned about this article, so as long as I am working on the citations I may also do any other straightening that seems necessary. - [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 22:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Done. I have also rewritten the lede to remove some unnecessary material, and elaborated some of the bare urls that were posing as citations. The latter are a little klunky-looking, but no one wanted to bother with a reflist before so I am not going to feel bad about this. - [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User talk:J. Johnson|talk]]) 20:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC) |
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{{u|William M. Connolley}}, {{u|Vsmith}}, and anyone else: Quite aside from any other good reason for blocking 108.73.112.237, I think {{diff2|671038995|this edit}}, adding "title=Climate Change 2001: Synthesis Report" to a citation, ought to be allowed. It seems to be a good faith attempt to clear one of the "{{font|text=Missing or empty title=|color=red}}" error messages that now plague us. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 20:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:The ips were blocked for abuse per [[WP:Block evasion]] - anyone may re-instate the edit (make it their own) if they deem it valid. [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] ([[User talk:Vsmith|talk]]) 20:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::You and William seemed to be going at it so hard at it I was fearful of getting run over. One yellow smoke, coming up. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J. Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 23:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC) |
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(William M. Connolley 17:26, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)) I've created this page because I want to link to it. At the momemnt I'm a bit unsure how big it should be. I think that most text should be on the IPCC page as at present.
Titular acronym
[edit]This shouldn't have an acronym for a title. I'm just not sure whether to move it to Third Assessment Report, IPCC Third Assessment Report, or Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report. I'm leaning toward the second. Opinions? —Simetrical (talk) 06:08, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- (William M. Connolley 09:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)) Well as long as the short form remains to link to I don't much mind. But... the first is out (other bodies might also issue third reps), the second has an acronym in the title :-) and the third is wordy but probably best.
The second includes an acronym, of course, but the third is just insanely wordy. I mean, seriously: Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report. Forget it, I'm going with the second. —Simetrical (talk) 23:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Stub type
[edit](William M. Connolley 09:46, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)) Re the stub type: there is some history on that; Icairns changed it. I thought sci was better than geo. Possibly (if stub types are to proliferate) we could have a report-stub too. Or an intergovernmental bodies stub. OR a climate stub. I couldn't decide so did nothing.
- Nevertheless, climatology has no relation to geography, not by any stretch of the imagination. I have to wonder what was going through Icairns' head.
- Report-stub is too narrow, and intergovernmental-bodies-stub is way too narrow. Climate, I think, also probably doesn't make it; the stub categories page says that new stubs should be created only for categories with a hundred pages or more, although that rule seems to be completely ignored (Bush-stub?!).
- Ah, I have it! The IPCC was founded by the UN, right? We can use the UN-stub! Or do you think the connection is too tenuous? —Simetrical (talk) 23:58, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- (William M. Connolley 21:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)) There are quite a lot of climate pages: glossary of climate change (and that only includes the ch ones, by and large)
- Seems to me like rather a lot of those are only tangentially related to climate, and wouldn't deserve a climate-stub tag if they were stubs. But I've broadened the UN-stub, so now it's definitely suitable for use for this page. —Simetrical (talk) 22:14, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Rewrite
[edit]I tried to fill this out as much as possible, make it a stand-alone article with links to other subjects (including "See Also" as not including things referenced or listed in the article, and as many inline references/links to other wiki pages as possible in the article), and for it to be accurate and descriptive. I included references to the WGs that handle different subjects, named for what they described the groups as being on their "about" page. For example, their current organization lists 3 WG and the TF, I tried to pull out short descriptions based upon what they said. Trouble is, their own link for WG III isn't working....... Sln3412 07:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Canonical IPCC citations
[edit]See Talk:IPCC Third Assessment Report/citation for citation forms and data.
As discussed at Talk:Global warming#Proposed IPCC citation, I have worked out (and hopefully debugged! but feel free to check) a set of canonical citations (references, actually), with working links, for the principal IPCC documents as demonstated below. If there are no objections I will upgrade the existing citations in this article to this format. - J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- IPCC TAR WG1 (2001), Houghton, J.T.; Ding, Y.; Griggs, D.J.; Noguer, M.; van der Linden, P.J.; Dai, X.; Maskell, K.; and Johnson, C.A. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80767-0
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- IPCC TAR WG1 (2001), Houghton, J.T.; Ding, Y.; Griggs, D.J.; Noguer, M.; van der Linden, P.J.; Dai, X.; Maskell, K.; and Johnson, C.A. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis, Contribution of Working Group I to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80767-0
- IPCC TAR WG2 (2001), McCarthy, J. J.; Canziani, O. F.; Leary, N. A.; Dokken, D. J.; and White, K. S. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability, Contribution of Working Group II to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80768-9
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- IPCC TAR WG2 (2001), McCarthy, J. J.; Canziani, O. F.; Leary, N. A.; Dokken, D. J.; and White, K. S. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability, Contribution of Working Group II to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80768-9
- IPCC TAR WG3 (2001), Metz, B.; Davidson, O.; Swart, R.; and Pan, J. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Mitigation, Contribution of Working Group III to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80769-7
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- IPCC TAR WG3 (2001), Metz, B.; Davidson, O.; Swart, R.; and Pan, J. (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Mitigation, Contribution of Working Group III to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0-521-80769-7
- IPCC TAR SYR (2001), Watson, R. T.; and the Core Writing Team (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Synthesis Report, Contribution of Working Groups I, II, and III to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0 521 80770 0
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- IPCC TAR SYR (2001), Watson, R. T.; and the Core Writing Team (ed.), Climate Change 2001: Synthesis Report, Contribution of Working Groups I, II, and III to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 0 521 80770 0
- Updated forms. - J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't look like anyone is much concerned about this article, so as long as I am working on the citations I may also do any other straightening that seems necessary. - J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Done. I have also rewritten the lede to remove some unnecessary material, and elaborated some of the bare urls that were posing as citations. The latter are a little klunky-looking, but no one wanted to bother with a reflist before so I am not going to feel bad about this. - J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Re edit war
[edit]William M. Connolley, Vsmith, and anyone else: Quite aside from any other good reason for blocking 108.73.112.237, I think this edit, adding "title=Climate Change 2001: Synthesis Report" to a citation, ought to be allowed. It seems to be a good faith attempt to clear one of the "Missing or empty title=" error messages that now plague us. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 20:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- The ips were blocked for abuse per WP:Block evasion - anyone may re-instate the edit (make it their own) if they deem it valid. Vsmith (talk) 20:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- You and William seemed to be going at it so hard at it I was fearful of getting run over. One yellow smoke, coming up. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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