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==Pinafore dress vs. Dirndl==
==Pinafore dress vs. Dirndl==


I have removed the comment that the Dirndl is an Austrian version of the pinafore dress, since this is factually wrong and is not supported by any source. A dirndl is a four-piece dress worn in German-speaking Alpine areas. It has little resemblance to a pinafore dress, which is a one-piece garment worn over something else; the only similarity is the decolleté neckline. Nor is there any cultural connection: the dirndl developed in the 19th century from traditional Alpine folk costume, whereas the pinafore dress developed in the 20th century; according to this page, the first mention is in the United States, although it is said to be based on French designs.
I have removed the comment that the [[Dirndl]] is an Austrian version of the pinafore dress, since this is factually wrong and is not supported by any source. A dirndl is a four-piece dress with a tight bodice and gathered skirt worn in German-speaking Alpine areas. It has little resemblance to a pinafore dress, which is a loose one-piece garment worn over something else; the only similarity is the layered effect. Nor is there any cultural connection: the dirndl developed in the 19th century from traditional Alpine folk costume, whereas the pinafore dress developed in the 20th century; according to this page, the first mention is in the United States, although it is said to be based on French designs.


[[User:SRamzy|SRamzy]] ([[User talk:SRamzy|talk]]) 13:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
[[User:SRamzy|SRamzy]] ([[User talk:SRamzy|talk]]) 13:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

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Cultural conitations

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I've added a line about the popularity of jumpers in more conservitive circles in the US. I think this is appropriate as other clothing articles mention who wears that clothing and/or what subcultures it is associated with.

--IsaacSapphire (talk) 23:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only if you can cite a source. Removed here, with the spelling corrected, until it can be sourced.
Jumpers are popular with conservative groups, particularly homeschoolers, in the United States.
Also, new talk page contributions should be added to the end of the talk page.76.27.94.3 (talk) 05:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jumper dress?

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I don't know enough about the subject to make the changes myself, but I would consider renaming the article to "Jumper (dress)". It seems to me that it is usual to use the word "jumper" by itself when referring to the item, and that "jumper dress" would be limited in use to circumstances where it is necessary to distinguish between different types of dresses. --Eclecticology, Monday, June 10, 2002

In clothing, a "jumper" is a kind of dress in the US, but it's a sweater in the UK, and then of course there are jumper cables for automobiles and jumpers in electronics and sport... I've never heard the article of clothing referred to as a "jumper dress" in the US, FWIW. -- Marj Tiefert, Monday, June 10, 2002

Gymslip?

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What are the opinions on whether British gymslips should be mentioned in this article? In my scant observations, I haven't noticed much distinction between gymslips and jumpers/pinnies. President Lethe 22:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sundress is a false joining

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This article and sundress should not be joined together. A sundress is never worn over a blouse, perhaps a blouse or a jacket could be worn over a sundress but it isn't so common. And the picture of the jumper looks pretty much nothing like what a sundress looks like in terms of typical cut or design.

Factual Inaccuracy, Citations Needed

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Needs citations.

A jumper is any, shoulder to thigh length woman's clothes that one "jumps into" to get dressed. Meaning, one commonly pulls them up from the ankles to put them on. Jumpers are not just dresses, but include overalls.

The similarity to a sundress is inaccurate. Yes, women might wear either style during the summer, but a sundress typically has very thin cloth and, more importantly, a sundress typically applied over the shoulder while dressing. One does not "jump into" a sundress.

The best similar clothing to a jumper are mens' overalls. Think Dickey's, farm clothing, etc.

Squonk64 (talk) 17:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC) Squonk64[reply]

Moved from Jumper dress to Jumper (dress)

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(cur | prev) 04:28, 22 June 2009‎ Bookworm857158367 (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (2,331 bytes) (0)‎ . . (moved Talk:Jumper dress to Talk:Jumper (dress): Americans don't call this item of clothing a jumper dress. They call it a jumper.) (undo | thank)

Really? Print sources seem to have "Jumper dress". In ictu oculi (talk) 02:07, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give some print sources? I have never heard it called a jumper dress.Kdammers (talk) 14:48, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinafore dress vs. Dirndl

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I have removed the comment that the Dirndl is an Austrian version of the pinafore dress, since this is factually wrong and is not supported by any source. A dirndl is a four-piece dress with a tight bodice and gathered skirt worn in German-speaking Alpine areas. It has little resemblance to a pinafore dress, which is a loose one-piece garment worn over something else; the only similarity is the layered effect. Nor is there any cultural connection: the dirndl developed in the 19th century from traditional Alpine folk costume, whereas the pinafore dress developed in the 20th century; according to this page, the first mention is in the United States, although it is said to be based on French designs.

SRamzy (talk) 13:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]