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==Requested move==
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the move request was: '''page moved'''. [[User:Vegaswikian|Vegaswikian]] ([[User talk:Vegaswikian|talk]]) 02:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

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[[Kaptan Pasha]] → {{no redirect|1=Kapudan Pasha}} – per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]

*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kapudan+Pasha%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kapudan Pasha" -Llc] 1,580 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kapudan+Pasa%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kapudan Pasa" -Llc] 257 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Captain+Pasha%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Captain Pasha" -Llc] 1,030 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kaptan+Pasha%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kaptan Pasha" -Llc] 176 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kaptan-i+Derya%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc] 81 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kapudan-i+Derya%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc] 145 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22Kaptan+Pasa%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en "Kaptan Pasa" -Llc] 151 results

+ Ottoman:
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*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=Ottoman+%22Kaptan+Pasha%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en Ottoman "Kaptan Pasha" -Llc] 111 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=Ottoman+%22Kaptan-i+Derya%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en Ottoman "Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc] 47 results
*[http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=Ottoman+%22Kapudan-i+Derya%22+-Llc&tbs=,cdr:1,cd_min:Jan%201_2%201923,cd_max:Dec%2031_2%202011&num=10&lr=lang_en Ottoman "Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc] 117 results
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[[User:Takabeg|Takabeg]] ([[User talk:Takabeg|talk]]) 02:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.''</div><!-- Template:RM bottom -->

==Name==
Including some variants untried above:
:Kapudan Pasha 8490/2330/'''187'''
:Captain Pasha 3150/'''2930'''/121 (but most book sources older volumes)
:Kaptan Pasha 3530/128/20
:Derya Bey 5520/10/1 (but one source the Cambridge ''History of the Ottoman Empire'')
:Kaptan-i Derya '''46400'''/226/21
:Kaptan Derya 21600/24/6
:Kapudan-i Derya 3060/279/30
:Kapudan Derya 20/9/1
:Captain Derya 51/0/0
Numbers are results from web, book, & scholar google searches ''-wikipedia''. Translations include "Grand Admiral," "Supreme Admiral," "Admiral." — [[User talk:LlywelynII|<span style="text-shadow:#BBBBBB 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">LlywelynII</span>]] 18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

== Commander-in-Chief ==

I have read the biographies of various Admirals of the Ottoman Empire and the title that I recommend is '''Grand Admiral''', the Grand Admiral still might come in under the Commander-in-chief which is the Grand Vizier as the Serdar, but I can't think of any example as of now. The Commander-in-chief for me is the Serdar. [[User:Mr.Helping Hand|Mr.Helping Hand]] ([[User talk:Mr.Helping Hand|talk]]) 19:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 10:59, 4 February 2024

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kaptan Pasha → Kapudan Pasha – per WP:COMMONNAME

+ Ottoman:

Takabeg (talk) 02:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name

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Including some variants untried above:

Kapudan Pasha 8490/2330/187
Captain Pasha 3150/2930/121 (but most book sources older volumes)
Kaptan Pasha 3530/128/20
Derya Bey 5520/10/1 (but one source the Cambridge History of the Ottoman Empire)
Kaptan-i Derya 46400/226/21
Kaptan Derya 21600/24/6
Kapudan-i Derya 3060/279/30
Kapudan Derya 20/9/1
Captain Derya 51/0/0

Numbers are results from web, book, & scholar google searches -wikipedia. Translations include "Grand Admiral," "Supreme Admiral," "Admiral." — LlywelynII 18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commander-in-Chief

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I have read the biographies of various Admirals of the Ottoman Empire and the title that I recommend is Grand Admiral, the Grand Admiral still might come in under the Commander-in-chief which is the Grand Vizier as the Serdar, but I can't think of any example as of now. The Commander-in-chief for me is the Serdar. Mr.Helping Hand (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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