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==Name==
==Name==

Latest revision as of 10:59, 4 February 2024

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Kaptan Pasha → Kapudan Pasha – per WP:COMMONNAME

+ Ottoman:

Takabeg (talk) 02:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Name

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Including some variants untried above:

Kapudan Pasha 8490/2330/187
Captain Pasha 3150/2930/121 (but most book sources older volumes)
Kaptan Pasha 3530/128/20
Derya Bey 5520/10/1 (but one source the Cambridge History of the Ottoman Empire)
Kaptan-i Derya 46400/226/21
Kaptan Derya 21600/24/6
Kapudan-i Derya 3060/279/30
Kapudan Derya 20/9/1
Captain Derya 51/0/0

Numbers are results from web, book, & scholar google searches -wikipedia. Translations include "Grand Admiral," "Supreme Admiral," "Admiral." — LlywelynII 18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commander-in-Chief

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I have read the biographies of various Admirals of the Ottoman Empire and the title that I recommend is Grand Admiral, the Grand Admiral still might come in under the Commander-in-chief which is the Grand Vizier as the Serdar, but I can't think of any example as of now. The Commander-in-chief for me is the Serdar. Mr.Helping Hand (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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