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== King's Indian Defence or Indian Defence? ==
== King's Indian Defence or Indian Defence? ==
'1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 ' is currently given as the King's Indian Defence.
'1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 ' is currently given as the King's Indian Defence.
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Could someone possibly clean this section up? I don't understand what they mean when they say preparation has been made for 11..Rb8 with ..c7-c5 and ..b7-b5, and sometimes with ..Ne5 first. That can simply be interpreted so many ways it should be rewritten. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.69.243.27|66.69.243.27]] ([[User talk:66.69.243.27|talk]]) 20:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Could someone possibly clean this section up? I don't understand what they mean when they say preparation has been made for 11..Rb8 with ..c7-c5 and ..b7-b5, and sometimes with ..Ne5 first. That can simply be interpreted so many ways it should be rewritten. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.69.243.27|66.69.243.27]] ([[User talk:66.69.243.27|talk]]) 20:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== 7. O-O==

In the part about the classical variation: it is not clear what white's move 7 is in the old main line (7. ...Kbd7) and all lines described thereafter. Probably white's move is 7. O-O as was stated for the main line, but this is not clear for the other variations described thereafter.
In the part about the classical variation: it is not clear what white's move 7 is in the old main line (7. ...Kbd7) and all lines described thereafter. Probably white's move is 7. O-O as was stated for the main line, but this is not clear for the other variations described thereafter.

== Dzindzi-indian ==

Is it worth mentioning the Dzindzi-indian variation? [[Special:Contributions/92.220.156.99|92.220.156.99]] ([[User talk:92.220.156.99|talk]]) 20:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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King's Indian Defence or Indian Defence?

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'1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 ' is currently given as the King's Indian Defence. Does not the King's Indian Defence occur after d6 has been committed and therefore the Grunfled can't be played, otherwise is it not still an Indian Defence? ChessCreator (talk) 13:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A bit lame to answer my own question, but the answer is no. When a Grunfeld occurs it transposes out of a KID to a Grunfled. ChessCreator (talk) 04:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree with your original point. I would say the KID is characterized by, among other things, the move d7-d6. No one who talks about chess seriously talks about "the Indian Defence". Farannan (talk) 02:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The KID features ....d7-d6; the Gruenfeld, ....d7-d5.Hushpuckena (talk) 09:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the KID, ...d6 is such a natural move that I'm sure it's played in all grandmaster games with this opening. However, beginners sometimes play the KID without ...d6, so it's worth being less dogmatic about the move being part of the KID by definition. To cite a parallel example, 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nh6 is still a Queen's Gambit Declined even though the "characteristic" move would be Nf6. 91.107.175.248 (talk) 16:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gallagher Variation explanation is poorly written and makes no sense

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Could someone possibly clean this section up? I don't understand what they mean when they say preparation has been made for 11..Rb8 with ..c7-c5 and ..b7-b5, and sometimes with ..Ne5 first. That can simply be interpreted so many ways it should be rewritten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.243.27 (talk) 20:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

7. O-O

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In the part about the classical variation: it is not clear what white's move 7 is in the old main line (7. ...Kbd7) and all lines described thereafter. Probably white's move is 7. O-O as was stated for the main line, but this is not clear for the other variations described thereafter.

Dzindzi-indian

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Is it worth mentioning the Dzindzi-indian variation? 92.220.156.99 (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]