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I just linked to the Faculty list at the University of Chicago, and the Editorial Board list at the Journal of Political Economy, as secondary sources to verify his positions. But hold on a minute... Shimer's articles and publications are not just blog posts. They are peer reviewed publications of the highest quality. His most famous paper (the one I cited) is published in American Economic Review, usually considered the most prestigious economics journal. He is a member of one of the top five (roughly) economics departments, he edits one of the top five (roughly) economics journals, and he was invited to summarize his research contributions for the NBER (not everyone gets that opportunity), and his new book is published by one of the top publishers of academic work in economics. These are all signs of his notability within the economics field. His notability is typical for economists who are listed in Wikipedia (see List of economists). However, unlike many on the List of economists, he is young, and his impact on economic research is being felt now. I've now found another paper, by G. Cardullo, that discusses the impact of Shimer's work. But the conundrum of covering a currently-important researcher like Shimer is that most of the writing that proves his influence is by him, not yet about him. Rinconsoleao (talk) 09:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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+The only references are this man's web site and articles he wrote.
+There are no independent sources referred to in the article.
+The guideline page -- [[WP:Notability]] -- states:
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+:I just linked to the Faculty list at the University of Chicago, and the Editorial Board list at the ''Journal of Political Economy'', as secondary sources to verify his positions. But hold on a minute... Shimer's articles and publications are not just blog posts. They are ''peer reviewed'' publications of the highest quality. His most famous paper (the one I cited) is published in ''American Economic Review'', usually considered the most prestigious economics journal. He is a member of one of the top five (roughly) economics departments, he edits one of the top five (roughly) economics journals, and he was invited to summarize his research contributions for the NBER (not everyone gets that opportunity), and his new book is published by one of the top publishers of academic work in economics. These are all signs of his notability within the economics field. His notability is typical for economists who are listed in Wikipedia (see [[List of economists]]). However, unlike many on the [[List of economists]], he is young, and his impact on economic research is being felt ''now''. I've now found another paper, by G. Cardullo, that discusses the impact of Shimer's work. But the conundrum of covering a currently-important researcher like Shimer is that most of the writing that proves his influence is ''by'' him, not yet ''about'' him. [[User:Rinconsoleao|Rinconsoleao]] ([[User talk:Rinconsoleao|talk]]) 09:04, 11 August 2010 (UTC)