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::Thanks, My comment was before the announcement. Its irrelevent now... [[User:Ccwaters|ccwaters]] 03:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
::Thanks, My comment was before the announcement. Its irrelevent now... [[User:Ccwaters|ccwaters]] 03:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::: I think it is silly of them to call themselves the red devils. considering there is a town in indiana named lowell & their mascot is the red devils. i wonder why they didnt go with another color or mascot all together to avoid confusion. anyone know HOW this name was chosen? voted on by students? there should be a link somewhere saying "if you were looking for" or "not to be confused with" the lowell red devils of lowell senior high school in indiana. |
::: I think it is silly of them to call themselves the red devils. considering there is a town in indiana named lowell & their mascot is the red devils. i wonder why they didnt go with another color or mascot all together to avoid confusion. anyone know HOW this name was chosen? voted on by students? there should be a link somewhere saying "if you were looking for" or "not to be confused with" the lowell red devils of lowell senior high school in indiana. |
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:The Lowell Devils are owned by the [[New Jersey Devils]], hence the common name. [[User:Flibirigit|Flibirigit]] 19:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC) |
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==Devils vs Lock Monsters...Same?== |
==Devils vs Lock Monsters...Same?== |
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No discussion in five months, I'm going to close this as no consensus. If there's any objection just request another merger.--[[User talk:Giants27|<span style="font-family:Bauhaus 93; color:black; font-size:medium;">Giants</span>]][[User:Giants27|<span style="font-family:Bauhaus 93; color:black; font-size:medium;">27</span>]]<small>([[Special:Contributions/Giants27|<span style="color:black;">Contribs</span>]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[WP:CFL|<span style="color:black;">WP:CFL</span>]])</small> 18:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC) |
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So New Jersey Purchased The Lock Monsters, and changed their name to the "Devils". |
So New Jersey Purchased The Lock Monsters, and changed their name to the "Devils". |
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The article should reflect both the Lock Monsters and Devils because they are the same franchise, just under new ownership. |
The article should reflect both the Lock Monsters and Devils because they are the same franchise, just under new ownership. |
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Lowell should have their entire franchise in one article [[User:Mrsteak613|Mrsteak613]] 01:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) |
Lowell should have their entire franchise in one article [[User:Mrsteak613|Mrsteak613]] 01:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:You'll notice that this franchise is treated no differently than any other AHL team that changed its name (ex [[Binghamton Dusters]]/[[Binghamton Whalers]]/[[Binghamton Rangers]]). [[User:Ccwaters|ccwaters]] 13:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC) |
:You'll notice that this franchise is treated no differently than any other AHL team that changed its name (ex [[Binghamton Dusters]]/[[Binghamton Whalers]]/[[Binghamton Rangers]]). [[User:Ccwaters|ccwaters]] 13:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:: But why should articles about AHL franchises be handled differently than those about the [[Texas Rangers (baseball)]] or [[Tennessee Titans]] or [[Los Angeles Lakers]] or dozens of other professional sports franchises that have had different names at different times? --[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] ([[User talk:R'n'B|call me]] Russ) 18:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Maybe the major league examples you listed handled it wrong? Furthermore minor league sports are considerably more unstable/dynamic/whatever and chances are any given current franchise had been previously operating in 5 other markets with 7 other identities. [[User:Ccwaters|ccwaters]] ([[User talk:Ccwaters|talk]]) 19:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC) |
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::::The [[Lowell Lock Monsters|Lock Monsters]]/[[Lowell Devils|Devils]] should be treated like the old [[Central Hockey League (1963-84)|Central Hockey League's]] [[Fort Worth Wings]]/[[Fort Worth Texans|Texans]]: a change in the team's nickname. If, however, the franchise moved and replaced by a ''new'' team, then there should be two separate entries: the [[American Hockey League|AHL's]] [[Springfield Indians]] moved and became the [[Worcester IceCats]] and the old [[International Hockey League (1945-2001)|International Hockey League's]] [[Flint Generals (IHL)|Flint Generals]] became the [[Saginaw Generals]] with the [[Springfield Falcons]] and [[Flint Spirits]] replacing the departed teams respectively. [[User:Raul17|Raul17]] ([[User talk:Raul17|talk]]) 23:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC) |
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==Devils vs Lock Monsters...Same?(Reply)== |
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Here's what I've learned after following the Lowell Lock Monsters for about their whole lifetime: |
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They were the affiliates with the Carolina Hurricanes and Colorado Avalanche (NY Islanders, formerly). |
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Another team, called the Albany River Rats was the affiliates of the New Jersey Devils at this time. |
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If you will, the River Rats and the Lock Monsters "swapped" cities. The "Old" River Rats moved to Lowell to become the Lowell Devils. The Lock Monsters moved to Albany only to stay with the old name of "River Rats" |
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This is just what I know. If you have any shouts or etc. just reply. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/24.128.209.176|24.128.209.176]] ([[User talk:24.128.209.176|talk]]) 18:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Not really true though. The AHL teams actually swapped parent clubs(unofficially), not the other way around. Either way, the businesses, the franchises, they have changed locations. The River Rats franchise now resides in Charlotte. The Lock Monsters/Devils franchise resides in Albany. This has to be kept clear on these pages, since minor league teams tend to bounce from city to city. I see what you're saying though. [[User:Kjscotte34|Kjscotte34]] ([[User talk:Kjscotte34|talk]]) 18:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Why the roster changes? == |
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I'm curious as to why the 2009-2010 roster is being updated. That season is over- all roster changes now should be listed on a 2010-2011 roster, if I'm not mistaken. Also, that roster should probably be on the [[Albany Devils]] page, not this one, as the Lowell incarnation of the team no longer exists. [[User:Kjscotte34|Kjscotte34]] ([[User talk:Kjscotte34|talk]]) 12:58, 8 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Sorry. I was not thinking. [[User:Raul17|Raul17]] ([[User talk:Raul17|talk]]) 13:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Name change
[edit]Nothing has been announced about a name change. The only indictation is the redirection of the former lock monsters website to lowelldevilshockey.com. The site only refers to the team as the "AHL's Lowell, Mass., franchise". As far as anyone is concerned: the domain name could just be a temporary placeholder for the Devil's AHL team in Lowell whose moniker is TBD. ccwaters 15:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- There was an article in the Lowell Sun regarding the name change for next year, sometime in early to mid-June 2006.--Azathar 02:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, My comment was before the announcement. Its irrelevent now... ccwaters 03:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think it is silly of them to call themselves the red devils. considering there is a town in indiana named lowell & their mascot is the red devils. i wonder why they didnt go with another color or mascot all together to avoid confusion. anyone know HOW this name was chosen? voted on by students? there should be a link somewhere saying "if you were looking for" or "not to be confused with" the lowell red devils of lowell senior high school in indiana.
- Thanks, My comment was before the announcement. Its irrelevent now... ccwaters 03:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- The Lowell Devils are owned by the New Jersey Devils, hence the common name. Flibirigit 19:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Devils vs Lock Monsters...Same?
[edit]No discussion in five months, I'm going to close this as no consensus. If there's any objection just request another merger.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 18:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
So New Jersey Purchased The Lock Monsters, and changed their name to the "Devils". The article should reflect both the Lock Monsters and Devils because they are the same franchise, just under new ownership. And the Lock Monsters, therefore, should not be a defunct team (or at least have the entire article put on the devils article with a redirect to the devils on the lock monsters page).
An example of name changing history:
- The New York Yankees were known as the "Highlanders" and were referenced as such (as well as the yankees name) until 1913.
Lowell should have their entire franchise in one article Mrsteak613 01:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- You'll notice that this franchise is treated no differently than any other AHL team that changed its name (ex Binghamton Dusters/Binghamton Whalers/Binghamton Rangers). ccwaters 13:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- But why should articles about AHL franchises be handled differently than those about the Texas Rangers (baseball) or Tennessee Titans or Los Angeles Lakers or dozens of other professional sports franchises that have had different names at different times? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe the major league examples you listed handled it wrong? Furthermore minor league sports are considerably more unstable/dynamic/whatever and chances are any given current franchise had been previously operating in 5 other markets with 7 other identities. ccwaters (talk) 19:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- The Lock Monsters/Devils should be treated like the old Central Hockey League's Fort Worth Wings/Texans: a change in the team's nickname. If, however, the franchise moved and replaced by a new team, then there should be two separate entries: the AHL's Springfield Indians moved and became the Worcester IceCats and the old International Hockey League's Flint Generals became the Saginaw Generals with the Springfield Falcons and Flint Spirits replacing the departed teams respectively. Raul17 (talk) 23:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe the major league examples you listed handled it wrong? Furthermore minor league sports are considerably more unstable/dynamic/whatever and chances are any given current franchise had been previously operating in 5 other markets with 7 other identities. ccwaters (talk) 19:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- But why should articles about AHL franchises be handled differently than those about the Texas Rangers (baseball) or Tennessee Titans or Los Angeles Lakers or dozens of other professional sports franchises that have had different names at different times? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Devils vs Lock Monsters...Same?(Reply)
[edit]Here's what I've learned after following the Lowell Lock Monsters for about their whole lifetime: They were the affiliates with the Carolina Hurricanes and Colorado Avalanche (NY Islanders, formerly). Another team, called the Albany River Rats was the affiliates of the New Jersey Devils at this time. If you will, the River Rats and the Lock Monsters "swapped" cities. The "Old" River Rats moved to Lowell to become the Lowell Devils. The Lock Monsters moved to Albany only to stay with the old name of "River Rats" This is just what I know. If you have any shouts or etc. just reply. Thanks! 24.128.209.176 (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
- Not really true though. The AHL teams actually swapped parent clubs(unofficially), not the other way around. Either way, the businesses, the franchises, they have changed locations. The River Rats franchise now resides in Charlotte. The Lock Monsters/Devils franchise resides in Albany. This has to be kept clear on these pages, since minor league teams tend to bounce from city to city. I see what you're saying though. Kjscotte34 (talk) 18:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Why the roster changes?
[edit]I'm curious as to why the 2009-2010 roster is being updated. That season is over- all roster changes now should be listed on a 2010-2011 roster, if I'm not mistaken. Also, that roster should probably be on the Albany Devils page, not this one, as the Lowell incarnation of the team no longer exists. Kjscotte34 (talk) 12:58, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry. I was not thinking. Raul17 (talk) 13:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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