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== Real problem of non-independant sources an fakes informations == |
== Real problem of non-independant sources an fakes informations == |
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There is a real problem of non-independant sources in this article and lot of informations are pure jokes : Regency Council of the Kingdom of Araucania, Minister of Communications and Judge of Arms of the Kingdom of Araucania etc. (The kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia does not exit and Mr Frédéric Rodriguez-Luz is a french citizen without any titles of nobility). All this is a imaginary and fancy "folklore". |
There is a real problem of non-independant sources in this article and lot of informations are pure jokes : Regency Council of the Kingdom of Araucania, Minister of Communications and Judge of Arms of the Kingdom of Araucania etc. (The kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia does not exit and Mr Frédéric Rodriguez-Luz is a french citizen without any titles of nobility). All this is a imaginary and fancy "folklore". |
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In fact, this article has no reason to be maintained --[[User:Articleandrault|Articleandrault]] ([[User talk:Articleandrault|talk]]) 07:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC) |
In fact, this article has no reason to be maintained --[[User:Articleandrault|Articleandrault]] ([[User talk:Articleandrault|talk]]) 07:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Editing would clearly solve the problem of long-winded titles and unnecessary lists of offices. Even if the subject of the article does indulge in 'fancy and folklore' that is not in itself a reason for deletion. Aside from the kingdom in question (which is itself notable) Luz is a heraldist and author of note within those fields. [[User:GlenBigglesworth|GlenBigglesworth]] ([[User talk:GlenBigglesworth|talk]]) 14:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC) |
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There is the same copy-paste bits about the kingship as a "fancy title" and "fantasy" and whether the Mapuche take this seriously on all the pages of all the Arucanian pretenders. Exact verbiage. It has a whiff of someone with an axe to grind. I have no dog in the race, neither should Wikipedia, but this duplicative polemicism annoyed me enough to comment. [[Special:Contributions/38.21.221.73|38.21.221.73]] ([[User talk:38.21.221.73|talk]]) 18:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC) |
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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. [[User:Community Tech bot|Community Tech bot]] ([[User talk:Community Tech bot|talk]]) 16:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Issues addressed == |
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It seems that the issues have all been addressed, with citations to substantial international media coverage of the subject in the past 18 months circa. [[User:GlenBigglesworth|GlenBigglesworth]] ([[User talk:GlenBigglesworth|talk]]) 05:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC) |
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"The Kingdom of Araucanía and Patagonia was represented by Auspice Stella a French non-profit organization whose purpose was to fight for the recognition of Mapuche human rights and self-determination from 2013 until July 2023 when all Mapuche members of the organisation were expelled and the human rights departments eliminated by four former members of the Kingdom serving as the board of directors and by the director general of the NGO." |
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Doesn't match the citation - "'We are hostages': indigenous Mapuche accuse Chile and Argentina of genocide". the Guardian. 2019-04-12. Retrieved 2022-11-11 |
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Looks like something was confused [[Special:Contributions/173.71.95.77|173.71.95.77]] ([[User talk:173.71.95.77|talk]]) 03:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Real problem of non-independant sources an fakes informations
[edit]There is a real problem of non-independant sources in this article and lot of informations are pure jokes : Regency Council of the Kingdom of Araucania, Minister of Communications and Judge of Arms of the Kingdom of Araucania etc. (The kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia does not exit and Mr Frédéric Rodriguez-Luz is a french citizen without any titles of nobility). All this is a imaginary and fancy "folklore". In fact, this article has no reason to be maintained --Articleandrault (talk) 07:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Editing would clearly solve the problem of long-winded titles and unnecessary lists of offices. Even if the subject of the article does indulge in 'fancy and folklore' that is not in itself a reason for deletion. Aside from the kingdom in question (which is itself notable) Luz is a heraldist and author of note within those fields. GlenBigglesworth (talk) 14:47, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
There is the same copy-paste bits about the kingship as a "fancy title" and "fantasy" and whether the Mapuche take this seriously on all the pages of all the Arucanian pretenders. Exact verbiage. It has a whiff of someone with an axe to grind. I have no dog in the race, neither should Wikipedia, but this duplicative polemicism annoyed me enough to comment. 38.21.221.73 (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion
[edit]The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. Community Tech bot (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Issues addressed
[edit]It seems that the issues have all been addressed, with citations to substantial international media coverage of the subject in the past 18 months circa. GlenBigglesworth (talk) 05:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
Citation doesn't match content
[edit]The statement
"The Kingdom of Araucanía and Patagonia was represented by Auspice Stella a French non-profit organization whose purpose was to fight for the recognition of Mapuche human rights and self-determination from 2013 until July 2023 when all Mapuche members of the organisation were expelled and the human rights departments eliminated by four former members of the Kingdom serving as the board of directors and by the director general of the NGO."
Doesn't match the citation - "'We are hostages': indigenous Mapuche accuse Chile and Argentina of genocide". the Guardian. 2019-04-12. Retrieved 2022-11-11
Looks like something was confused 173.71.95.77 (talk) 03:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)