Talk:Cory Maye

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Edits

Aug 6: The Washington post link leads to a missing article.

I edited the sentence that said, "Only two of the jurors were African-Americans" to take out the "only." Let's just give people the facts. Also edited out a line that said Maye "probably" didn't know the gun was stolen. How can we judge this? Let's just stick with what is verifiable.

Also, how is this a "current event"? The shooting happened in 2001 and the execution has not been scheduled.

Well, it is beginning to draw some media attention. Things may change as details emerge. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. Daniel Case 06:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I deleted the detail that the gun was "apparently" not stolen by Maye. Again, let's just stick to the facts and leave judgments out of this.

Controversy: Lack of Media?

Since I first heard about this several days ago from a libertarian blog, one of the biggest complaints I've heard has been the lack of mainstream media attention this case is getting. Perhaps this is something that should be included under "Controversy"? Juvenall 13:51, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so. I've had this sort of thing taken out of other articles, and to be totally honest it does not strike me as all that notable that the media hasn't covered this in the past two years (unless, of course, you consider it notable in and of itself that the major national media doesn't cover every death penalty case like this). You have a guy waiting for the needle who undeniably killed a cop ... most people wouldn't look past that detail, and therefore it's not likely that there would be much media. Daniel Case 17:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Though that assumption that everyone dosn't read past "killed a cop" is a brilliant standing point, im afraid that despite all evidence, even ignorant dribble that the media could twist into a "killed a cop, hes guilty!", his house was illegally entered, he drew a gun he legally owned and got into a position that is undeniably in defence of his life and home (his daughters), and shot an officer...that no-one has even raised questions over it is a huge controversy. 58.170.130.241 (talk) 03:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Harlequin

Disregarding hyperbole (if it were true "that no-one has even raised questions over it" we wouldn't be discussing it) — what can we really say about the lack of coverage? Once we've listed the nonexistent articles and quoted a couple of activists expressing outrage, then what? —Tamfang (talk) 01:40, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

You could note that it hasn't been widely covered in any other medium than indie bloggers and sites like wikipedia (even this article is relatively meager.

Honestly though, I don't think that's so controversial if the incident doesn't concern a rich white girl. 82.95.25.120 (talk) 15:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment

Heard about this on hammeroftruth.com. Wiki has some very nice and complete work thanks to you all.

Links to Balko's Site

The information at Balko's site is key, however it looks terrible to have so many links listed.

Someone should contact Balko and ask him to maintain an index page of posts related to the Cory Maye story and we can link to that index page. --AStanhope 22:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I cleaned up the reference section and took the tag off. Daniel Case 14:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Consolidation of Balko References

The link below works, so I edited to clean up the page a bit.

Balko now has all of his material consolidated under one URL: http://www.theagitator.com/archives/cat_cory_maye.php.

I'd recommend holding off on editing the reference material here until he makes his next posting, in case of some technical glitch with his site coding.

Also, thanks for all of the great assistance and expertise in getting this entry on wiki. You folks are great.

Corey Maye

I moved Cory Maye to Corey Maye: According to this his name should have an "e" εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Cory or Corey

All three news articles spell the name "Cory", in conflict with the spelling provided by the State of Mississippi. The affidavits don't mention his name. When the court transcript appears, this should solve the problem. I did e-mail Radley Balko to see if he had insight into the proper spelling of the name and am awaiting a response.

Please sign your posts with ~~~~, Stephengordon, so we can know who you are! : ). User:Encyclopedist/sig 22:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I added a factual accuracy tag due to the above comment. User:Encyclopedist/sig 22:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

It's Most Likely To Be Cory

Radley Balko responded to my e-mail with this blog posting [1]: "I emailed public defender Bob Evans, who confirmed with Maye himself that it is indeed "Cory." Considering they would have started the criminal trial with proper verification of the identity of the defendant, I'm going to revert the name back to Cory.

Sorry about the missing the sig line; I'm still learning how all this works. Please let me know if I mess anything else up.

Stephen Gordon 23:40, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

What are you saying, you are doing an excellent job! Please keep contributing we need more like YOU! : ) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 01:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

AfD result

Bom. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 04:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Facial tic and controversy

Balko provided another line today [2] which seems potentially significant, but is somewhat subjective. As a political consultant (Maye likely has Tourette's Syndrome or something similar -- wife is a psychiatrist, I'll ask her), I'll verify that subjective stuff like this makes a big difference on voting day. I've both won and lost recent campaigns on less than this:

Maye's current attorney, public defender Bob Evans, tells me one reason Maye have come off as unsympathetic to the jury was that he has an odd facial mannerism. He apparently has a half smile -- Evans says some might call it a smirk -- when he speaks, even when he's talking about pretty important things, like saving his own life. Any defense attorney will tell you that a defendant's body language is immensely important, perhaps more important than what he actually says. Evans' description of Maye's quirky mannerism seems to fit with what Maye's trial attorney told me early on -- that two jurors told her after the trial they thought Maye was spoiled and disrespectful. And that that impression made them less likely to believe his testimony.

The best wording I can suggest at this moment is:

It is possible that the jury was influenced by a neurological disorder suffered by Maye.

Vielen dank und gute Nacht,

Stephen Stephen Gordon 08:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

changed spelt to spelled

While I agree with the proper usage of "spelt", "spelled" is arguably as proper but more commonly used in English speaking countries. I won't argue with a revert, though.

Hi. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* (talk) 22:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

What facts are in dispute?

I think it would be a good idea for whomever is challenging the factual accuracy of this article to come forth and explain what they take exception to. The early mistakes made by Radley Balko in his initial reporting of Mr. Maye's case have since been corrected. So . . . what gives?

Danno49 19:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Inbound links

One of the reasons for the deletion vote was that there are no inbound links to this from other articles. Can someone go around and find some places to link from? Unfortunately, the obvious ones don't really offer much in the way of possibilities. Daniel Case 05:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Officer Jones picture

Also, might it not be a good idea to have the picture of Ron Jones currently on the Officer Down Memorial Page with his section? As Radley said recently, there's not much complaint about his overall performance as a cop, and he's as much a victim of this situation as Maye. Daniel Case 16:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Without Jones the raid would never have happened. But yeah, a picture of him wouldn't hurt. —Tamfang 02:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Two concerns over Counsel section recently added.

1. "Since Jefferson Davis County has a majority of African-Americans, who might have made more sympathetic jurors, while Marion County is largely white, it may have been a mistake having the trial moved."

I'm not sure if that passage belongs in it's current form if we're listing facts only.

2. "Maye's appeal was filed in a timely fashion and is ongoing. Maye is now represented by Bob Evans, the original public defender in the case, who is preparing his appeal."

I thought that Maye's appeal has yet to be filed. The first sentence seems to indicate that it was filed yet the second sentence states that the appeal is being prepared.

Perhaps these passage need to be 'cleaned up' a bit?  :)

Danno49 21:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Air America Radio

I recall a legal issue between Air America Radio and Air America Phoenix, but can't find proper documentation at this time. My recollection is that AAR is the better known liberal radio network, while AAP pre-existed AAR. They (as I recall) came to loggerheads over the trademark when Badnarik protested the legitimacy (in court -- Maricopa County, AZ -- I flew in for the event) of the most recent presidential debates in Tempe, AZ. The key issue from the people who talked to me in the courtroom ante-chambers was that AAR (Kerry side) favored the war in Iraq while AAP (libertarian) opposed it. The lawyers speaking which I remember had ties to the Bush camp, mostly.

While not sure how that issue was ultimately resolved, it is clear in my memory that there are two Air Americas at play here, and the one linked on this wiki entry is improper. I can dig up more if necessary, but it seems that the Air America link needs to be dropped, barring additional insight of which I am not aware.

Stephen Gordon 19:03, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

List of everyone talking about Cory Maye

Angelica of the BattlePanda weblog has put together a comprehensive list of everyone who has written about Cory Maye:

http://battlepanda.blogspot.com/2005/12/outrage.html

This is a valuable resource for anyone trying to follow who is writing about this particular case. Angelica and I were talking about moving this list somewhere more permanent than a weblog post. Can we put this info on the Cory Maye page?

"Confidential informant"'s identity discovered

Radley Balko has posted information that identifies the previously unknown informant as Randy Gentry. http://www.theagitator.com/archives/027052.php#027052 Mr. Gentry doesn't come across as the best type of confidential informant, and I believe it would be prudent to have a mention of such on Cory Maye's entry. What do others think? WeedWhacker 06:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

his whole "fuck niggers" rant on Bob Evans answering machine seems very relevant to me.

Out of Date fragment

In the section under "Counsel", the following is stated: "Maye has filed a motion for a new trial, which is not yet fully briefed." If no-one objects, I'm going to delete this in 48 hours. Slowjoe17 (talk) 17:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

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